Tomestones cap needs to be raised a month before next patch

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Originally Posted by Mature

And have THE AUDACITY to complain about the game??? With a character like THAT??? I don't know if I wanna laugh or cry. And it's not just the classes...

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Condescension aside, what say you to people who have all their jobs leveled or simply aren't interested in crafting? I would be equally bored were it not for Ultimate. Because I find stuff to eventually occupy my time doesn't detract from the fact 4.1 launched with sparse amount of content for non-PVPers or raiders.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

The fact that people can't get full 340 on all their alts just by doing dungeons, is a reason to farm savage. Uncapping tomes would remove the gear incentive from savage. If you want there to be reasons to play the game, why would you want incentives removed from content?

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For some people, Savage might as well not exist. No amount of carrots or sticks or anything will change that.

Why not give them more to do too just like Savage raiders have extra too.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

First off, you already can play to your own schedule. You aren't held at gunpoint to cap.

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You know exactly what I meant. :P

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The tome gear is a bonus, and doesn't even have to actually be in the game. If they got rid of tome gear, it'd just mean non-raiders have worse gear, since the raids, according to min Ilvl, are balanced around the crafted gear, or the gear you get from doing the raid on normal. The tome gear exists so non-raiders aren't left to dust.

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I know why Tomestone gear exists, but the fact of the matter is that Tomestone gear is also used by raiders and not having Tomestone gear would further trivialize this game's already lackluster itemization. It's very much a necessary thing.

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Second of all, that's part of the catch of taking a break. And that's fine. Do you think people are going to hang you over taking a break and maybe getting a bit behind in gear?

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I don't think it's fine from a long-term health/business perspective, and it once again goes against the fundamental design philosophy the game runs on. It's why my only response when Yoshi said they expect us to take breaks was to laugh, completely ignoring what usually happens when more hardcore players turn their attention away from any game for too long.

And yes, yes I do think that being behind in gear causes problems. I mean, I'm talking about the dumb people putting things like Lakshmi EX in PF with an i330 requirement, or people putting up i335/i340 Savage groups, but... this absolutely is a thing that exists. It's a thing that has been posted about here and on Reddit countless times, and will continue to be posted about. Even if you're an experienced raider, there are so many obstacles stopping "I want to come back to XIV to raid" impulses in their tracks. It'll be worse in 4.2 where we won't have an EX Primal dropping accessories for quick gearing (outside of crafted gear, obviously).

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Also this is the catch with paying 6 months in advance. Signed for a commitment, and it's why there's even a discount in the first place. It's not Square's fault if you paid for 6 months and then got bored 1 month in. You could have just paid 1 month.

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Not their fault, no, but absolutely their problem. Especially if they're going to do more of those Veteran Rewards-esque promotions like the Falcon mount.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

But that's what it would go to. Maybe not 1%, but 5%. It certainly wouldn't be anywhere close to guaranteed drops per run. ... People also complain all the time they don't have personal loot in 24 mans and it takes them 50+ runs to see the drop they want and then they lose it to the other guy.

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There are multiple ways to get around it, if they cared enough to try. The problem with the Alliance Raids is that there are 42 items, duplicates can (and frequently DO) happen, and items drop from specific bosses. While that number would jump to 62 (20 accessories), there are also 3 dungeons per cycle. And an EX trial (or two, if we completely move away from weapons). I'm sure some divide could be done up to make it viable, if not exactly quick.

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And how does that change what dungeons are? Its still the same thing, but now because it drops relevant gear its suddenly less terrible?

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Perception. "Gonna do my EX Roulette," wherein I do not value or care about where I am or what I'm doing, vs "Going to run Drowned City for my healer pants." Or I guess since 3.4 or so, "I'll wander out into this field and free stuff will just magically rain down on me for reasons." (Hunts, EX Primals, Savage, PvP, PotD, maps, w/e) It's nothing major, it's just something that's always kind of bugged me.

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We can go back to the older style system, but expect to see a massive drop in players.

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I'm convinced there's an entire segment of this spectrum that is fully viable but isn't being explored for the sake of keeping the status quo and not ruffling (too many) feathers. People are bored of the current speed and angle of this treadmill; it may not have a sharp drop-off in subscribed players but it may legitimately be worse in that the ones that are dropping off are very likely to not return.

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Originally Posted by Mature

Oh I agree with the OP too in some sense. But I will NOT tolerate them kind of posts where people moan about something JUST for the sake of it (specially with a character like that) Having not done ... Much in game?
Ps:btw I'm not talking about the OP , I'm talking about the individual that had the audacity to complaint about "there\\'s not reason to log in the game to just CAP times" when his character shows the total opposite.

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And you know that's his only character how? And even if it isn't, who are you to say whether someone can complain about not having fun with the content in the game? I can level a job from 1 to 70 in less than a day. It doesn't make it fun. And because thats not fun, I'm not gonna.

"You don"t have the right to complain because you don't have every class leveled." Christ.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

I can level a job from 1 to 70 in less than a day.

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Yo can I challenge that? I actually want to see that.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

Yo can I challenge that? I actually want to see that.

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I wonder if that’s with or without jumping 1-60. With a jump, I think it may be possible.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

Yo can I challenge that? I actually want to see that.

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Its a lot easier than you think. Road to 60 buff, that hat that gives you +20% bonus exp up to level 10, Ala Mhigan earring, Brand New Ring, max FC exp buff, and food. Palace of the Dead to 60 if youre a dps, the dungeon for your level range all the way through if you're tank or healer.

Easy peasy.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

Its a lot easier than you think. Road to 60 buff, that hat that gives you +20% bonus exp up to level 10, Ala Mhigan earring, Brand New Ring, max FC exp buff, and food. Palace of the Dead to 60 if youre a dps, the dungeon for your level range all the way through if you're tank or healer.

Easy peasy.

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I agree it’s easy, I’m not sure there is enough time.

Let’s assume it’s 3 clears per level for PotD (01-60) and the same for dungeons (61-70).

At 15 minutes per dungeon (very generous) and no queue times or food/bathroom breaks you need the following for 61-70:
10 levels @ 3 dungeons per level is 30 dungeons. 30 dungeons @ 15 minutes per dungeon is 7.5 hours.

That leaves 16.5 hours for 1-60.
60 levels @ 3 PotD per level is 180 PotD total. To complete 180 PotD in 990 minutes is 5.5 minutes per 10 floors.

I don’t think there is enough time.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

Its a lot easier than you think. Road to 60 buff, that hat that gives you +20% bonus exp up to level 10, Ala Mhigan earring, Brand New Ring, max FC exp buff, and food. Palace of the Dead to 60 if youre a dps, the dungeon for your level range all the way through if you're tank or healer.

Easy peasy.

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I mean, first off Friendship Circlet's just better because lasts to 25.

Second of all, Road to 60 requires a new character. And you gotta take that character to 70 before starting this. And you gotta prep with Palace Upgrades since you're using that. And you gotta hope your runs are short. Heaven's forbid if you manage to wipe.

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Originally Posted by Mature

barely coherent tirade

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You should stop posting.