am i the only one who really want more "human size" epic boss fight?

I'm not really sure where to post this, but as an aside...? I just got tipped off to the fact that someone is impersonating me over on the FFXIV sub-reddit in an effort to stir drama regarding my presence on this board. The writing style is similar but they're only really recycling phrases and saying stuff that I have already revealed here and over on the general discussion board in the past. Just consider this a preemptive forewarning to prevent any drama bubbling over here as well. I suppose there isn't much I can do about it beyond that, though at least it's something different to the angry whispers I occasionally get in-game. :p

Back on topic, though? I was actually hoping that we would get to fight Yotsuyu. I think she would have made for an interesting battle - though what they did with her worked well enough, I suppose. We still might get to fight her if it turns out that she is lying about having amnesia...or she regains her memory and goes back to her quest for vengeance.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I'm not really sure where to post this, but as an aside...? I just got tipped off to the fact that someone is impersonating me over on the FFXIV sub-reddit in an effort to stir drama regarding my presence on this board. The writing style is similar but they're only really recycling phrases and saying stuff that I have already revealed here and over on the general discussion board in the past. Just consider this a preemptive forewarning to prevent any drama bubbling over here as well. I suppose there isn't much I can do about it beyond that, though at least it's something different to the angry whispers I occasionally get in-game. :p

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I avoid social media like the plague. Even my Facebook exists solely because I was tired of people badgering me to make one (though I did used to play Angry Birds on it). Also avoid drama like the plague; attacking others' character is not something I enjoy or condone.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Back on topic, though? I was actually hoping that we would get to fight Yotsuyu. I think she would have made for an interesting battle - though what they did with her worked well enough, I suppose. We still might get to fight her if it turns out that she is lying about having amnesia...or she regains her memory and goes back to her quest for vengeance.

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Yotsuyu's talents lie mostly in subterfuge, not combat. She was shown to be very distressed when caught in the assassination attempt on Zenos "without [her] brute" (Grynewaht), strongly suggesting she cannot fight or, if she can, is not on the same level as Yugiri or the Warrior of Light (as they were prior to journeying to the Azim Steppe).

I'm not against a 1 on 1 fight with Yotsuyu, but dealing with someone who uses lots of traps and a gun (as Yotsuyu would have to in order to even the scales) isn't exactly my idea of "epic." Something like the 1 on 1 fight with Regula that has the Warrior of Light end it with an offensive Lv3 Limit Break regardless of class? That's my idea of epic. (The Lakshmi fight during 4.1's MSQ and the DRK 70 fight are on the level of what I'm talking about, save for the fact they're not 1 on 1.)

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Originally Posted by Keever

Notably, even in dungeons with human-sized enemies, they are sized up a little bit for improved visibility. This goes all the way back to Sastasha (Captain Madison is rather taller than a maximum-height Midlander man). Dungeon enemies who are members of the playable races just about always get this treatment. Halatali (HM) and the Vault are more good examples. And then there's the Ruby Princess in Shisui, who is Roegadyn-sized (okay you can make up an explanation for this one as being related to the voidsent possession or something).

For even bigger parties, they make even bigger enemies. The enemy dev team simply see this as a necessity for multiplayer battle content, I guess.

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This is probably the main reason why all our boss-level opponents are so large. It's easily seen in Castrum Meridianum vs Livia (after she gets out of her armour), where it is very difficult to check where to stand in order to Trick Attack, or if she had suddenly spun around to do a mechanic.

(I end up hitting True North to avoid all the complications.)

MMO gameplay necessities mean some things have to be lore-bending. Like a lot of indoor environments being far bigger than they should be, because they have to accommodate for player cameras.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I'm not really sure where to post this, but as an aside...? I just got tipped off to the fact that someone is impersonating me over on the FFXIV sub-reddit in an effort to stir drama regarding my presence on this board. The writing style is similar but they're only really recycling phrases and saying stuff that I have already revealed here and over on the general discussion board in the past. Just consider this a preemptive forewarning to prevent any drama bubbling over here as well. I suppose there isn't much I can do about it beyond that, though at least it's something different to the angry whispers I occasionally get in-game. :p

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To be fair, you did mention before that you post on Reddit, so it's entirely believable that you have a Reddit account that will respond to the Reddit thread in question.

You should probably go to the Reddit thread (I assume you have the link, since you're speaking about it here) and post on your real Reddit account to clear up the issue.

We had one, all hail Nael deus Darnus!! It was an awsome fight too.

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Originally Posted by gumas

Yeah i can see what you mean by that, even against human size boss. They somehow still manage to make it “big” for some reason, like in doma castle final boss.

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That "some reason" is gameplay, smaller bosses have smaller target rings, a nightmare for positionals. Imagine a normal size 24 man boss with 10 players all around the target ring. Not to mention GFX would cover the boss.

A third factor is that a monster wouldn't look threatening if it as the same size as a hyur, so the normal size is usually reserved for human bosses.

So pretty much this is where your suspension of disbelief needs to come into play to leave room for ease of gameplay elements.

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*stuff about yotsuyu*

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when i first saw her i though we will fight her later on too, but instead of using trap and other stuff like that, i was under impression we will fight her like Midgardsormr boss battle. she will stand on the back casting aoe and any annoying skill while Grynewaht fight directly with us and when his hp drop to certain % she will join in until the end.

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This is probably the main reason why all our boss-level opponents are so large.

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dear yoshi can we have DG where all enemy is lalafell pls =D maybe from hildibrand storyline?

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Originally Posted by gumas

dear yoshi can we have DG where all enemy is lalafell pls =D maybe from hildibrand storyline?

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ATTACK OF THE GIANT MIDGET

Landing a trick attack or any other skill that is highly positional demanding is a big pain in the ass on human sized bosses in any 8+man content so please no, no more human sized bosses! =/

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Originally Posted by YianKutku

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I do post on Reddit occasionally, though I'm not comfortable revealing the account that I post on as I'm involved in various sub-reddits that would make it possible for someone unhinged to track me down if they wanted to. Other than that, I'm a fairly private person in general. The account pretending to be me has been deleted, though. As in, every single individual post has vanished across every sub-reddit and the user in question has deactivated their account. To be safe, I may get in touch with my family's lawyer. Not necessarily to file a lawsuit or anything but to understand the laws surrounding internet harassment and impersonation better. My guess is that whoever did it is banned from this site and so cannot post here anymore. Still, as they say...imitation is a form of flattery. ;)

To get back on topic, though, I do agree that a Yotsuyu fight would involve traps and deception. She has proven to be exceptionally durable given that Hien slashing her across the chest and a castle collapsing around her ended up not being enough to take her down. She also survived being washed away and stranded on a remote island.

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Originally Posted by gumas

i think that tradition actually already dated back to old era, like in snes FF6 when you going to fight human boss like kefka or shadow, they didnt use normal sprite like how they appear in the game, they use this full body art sprite thus make them look "big" and menacing while our character still look small and dorky.

i think it just JRPG tradition thingy at this point, though i can see its going to be weird (and probably comedic) if you have like random dude in knight armor with normal sword and shield (no glow no effect nothing whatsoever) as final boss.

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If you want to stretch it, you can trace that back even further, to medieval art, where size was majorly indicative of importance. And I think even ancient Egyptians had the same deal going on, too... :3