Please remove the EXP from PVP!

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Originally Posted by Gravton

Medals would track participation not performance. There would still be caps on rewards like now. Medals would just ensure you weren't a bot on auto-follow.

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This still wouldn't work, because the bots don't just autofollow. They get engaged in fights, often very aggressively. 90% of the time you see team battles in the center of a frontline match, it's just clusters of bots. I don't think people understand just how many characters in these matches or bots or how sophisticated the bots are.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

Exactly this. Allow for a 4v4 unranked mode that gives exp (based on victory/loss). Then have a ranked mode with proper rewards (yes, proper, no super big prize for the top 100 and garbage tokens for the rest of the players).

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I like this idea, but what are you suggesting for the rewards and how to get them? Because an armor set is not really a super big prize to me :(

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Originally Posted by Shirolumi

I like this idea, but what are you suggesting for the rewards and how to get them? Because an armor set is not really a super big prize to me :(

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Compared to half of a weapon it is imo.
Judging by the difficulty to attain rank tiers I'd do something like:

Bronze (very easy) - tokens for weapon
Silver (very easy) - tokens for weapon
Gold (easy) - tokens for weapon
Platinum (moderate) - Full set of undyable armor
Diamond (hard) - Full set of dyable armor
Top 100 - Full set of dyable armor, top 100 special earrings and title
Top 10 - Furnishing + top 100 prize

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Originally Posted by ShigureKosaka

As the title say's, Please remove the exp reward all to gather from pvp. Its nothing but freaking bots there now and its totally not fun anymore when you try and have fun only to be forced to take a exp penalty cause people want to use bots and warp all over the freaking map killing others. Its not fun anymore please either fix this issue by disable all emotes/following in pvp or just remove the exp all to gather. I rather have a 10+min wait time for real pvp then a quick pvp fight that has no fun.

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Even if i don't think that is happening i agree with you.

I will have no reason to play PVP anymore, and no decent option to level up my DPS jobs if XP is removed from PVP. I disagree with this suggestion.

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Originally Posted by Ahrniel

I will have no reason to play PVP anymore, and no decent option to level up my DPS jobs if XP is removed from PVP. I disagree with this suggestion.

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Originally Posted by Gravton

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Actually I somewhat agree with Ahrneil. I use PVP to level classes. If EXP is removed I would have to find other methods to level that are less enjoyable. Spamming dungeons and the queue times are not enjoyable. Dungeons are predictable. Every PVP match is unpredictable as the players change the dynamic. For me exp gave me an outlet to accomplish both of the things I enjoy to do.

It'd be better if they just took action against bots. 72 player matches in a frontline are usually 50+ bots. A few cases of permabans on the prominent ones would probably be more than enough of a deterrent given that a lot of the bots are highly leveled/achieved characters.

I like how the creator of this thread has all classes on 70 though. Only because YOU don't need exp anymore, doesn't have to mean removing it is the favorable way to fix PvP.

Honestly, it has to be said that when there was no XP offered, we didn't have anywhere near as many issues with botting or people just making half-hearted efforts "'cause I get XP either way." PvP functioned as a solid, if not undersupported and unrecognized endgame activity.

Because I understand the desire to allow players in as early as 30 - and with plans to make it possible from even 1 - it might do well to split the queues. Have a leveling queue and an endgame queue. There ARE people that PvP for reasons other than leveling, and enjoy it for more than a substitute for other content that gives more XP anyways. But I can't stress enough, we didn't have half these problems back then, and the overall quality of sportsmanship, let alone competitive spirit was MUCH higher.