Healers dont Heal since they can also do damage now.

I am slightly guilty of doing DPS as a Scholar Healer on one of my alts. The only justification that I can provide is that I mainly DPS other enemy healers with broil. Broil reduces down their mana per hit and I even mark them before using Chain Stratagem in order for the DPS to know that the healer is vulnerable to 10% damage all the while getting their mana drained. Other then that, I attempt to stick with healing, especially with the Big Ice in shatter.

In feast healers rarely attack, at least those with ebough brain to not attack when not safe for the party, sch might be tempting for its op broil but if you start spamming broil i doubt ur team would still be alive by the time u used the 5th broil. Whm attack is more tactical use, applies heavy, it is either to temporary slow down melee or tank or to heavy sum1 escaping. I cant say anything for ast, the slow it applies may be good? Need to check

Same I thought it was pve, I don't go to forum types to find posts I just click on new posts on the top left to see what's recent. But still I often run whm in pvp and a stone 2 had gotten my team plenty of kills with it's slow effect. But I still try to prioritize healing. Though I gotta say the thing that annoys me most as a healer is when the party goes wherever they want and I only got maybe 3 other people with me that are sometimes out of range so I will be guilty of dpsing more then healing in those situations.

So to kinda counter the whole healers need to heal in pvp rather then dps, everyone should help out the healer and stay together. Seriously if I see the other 7 people taking damage constantly I'll focus on healing but if it's just a few of us and they take damage rarely you best believe I'm gonna be dpsing and probably miss when 1 dude takes damage for a good 5-10 seconds

Oh yeah this is only relevant to front lines. The feast I'm 100% heals unless there's a single guy trying to run back to his team, then I'll water him back and slow him so he won't get away

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Originally Posted by Maxwell

BEFORE blaming healers for your death, have you at least stepped back and asked yourself if you simply made a tactical mistake ? Bad position, not with your team, focused by 10+ enemies, out of range, LOSed your healer, lured away, failed to break off in time, etc.

Blaming healers is the easiest cop-out.

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No one called you out, so get over yourself.

Some healers are great in Frontlines and I have personally commended them in chat, as well as commended them after the fight. But, there are many who stand around casting Malefic, Broil or Stone letting their DPS or tanks die right before their very eyes. I've experienced it myself many times (no not even being zerged by 6 people, but being killed by one person in a situation that would have been EZ as pie to heal through) and I've seen it happen to others.

Healer is using dps skill instead of healing ?
Darks play with 8 buttons instead of 9 and ignore darkest ?
its pretty much the same, dps blindly is more braindead than focus on support to the group.
You just point lazy healer, its easier to use a 1 button to dps than 9 to do everything.
9 buttons feel too much... why not reduce this number even more...

Broil reduce target's hp, mp and tp.
It is strong and a valuable things to do.
But not in very situation of course.

But keep in mind its effect.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Good healers supporting a team can make ALL the difference.

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Sooooo many comms on my healer in Heavensward when I used to heal PVP. But then again, I'm the sort of person who really wishes PVE healing wasn't so faceroll and braindead stupid so that all I HAVE to do is put a regen on the tank and spam my AOE DPS move. I know this discussion is about PVP, but how much of the "bad DPSing healers" that you get in FLs are probably just approaching PVP healing the same way they approach PVE healing? The variance in challenge levels is off the charts, to be quite frank, and it wouldn't surprise me to hear that people are surprised at how much they have to be paying attention and constantly watching for people out of position or about to dive in.

That said, I 100% agree with other healers who have remarked that healing for pugs is an exercise in frustration most of the time. I swear it's like receiving a heal is just a big blinking beacon for them that for some reason seems to say, "CONTINUE TO GO BACK AND DO THAT STUPID THING YOU WERE DOING INSTEAD OF BACK OFF".

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Originally Posted by Araxes

The Damage in PvP was always so low that it was just a waste of Mana. With the skillrework in PVP they actually do damage.

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Well, it was low *after* they removed Cleric Stance in PVP. Before that it was exceptional to the point of being overpowering.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

Well, it was low *after* they removed Cleric Stance in PVP. Before that it was exceptional to the point of being overpowering.

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I remember 7 whm 1 sch best team ever, you had 7 stacks of medica2 plus succor and gg just spam holy and everything dies

Just booted one healer as he/she was literally just standing or following random teammates while doing nothing, feels like this is getting worse and worse as now they dont even throw stones....