Please do not nerf the final boss

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Originally Posted by Tatiana

Honestly, this fight was both amazing and miserable at the same time. I don't think a MSQ boss should be this difficult, and I can see where a lot of people may end up getting stuck at this part if their parties can't get it done so it probably should be nerfed simply because you have to do it in order to finish the MSQ. It only took me 3 tries, and when I got it done it was only barely. The second phase is an absolute nightmare, and it's very difficult to make heads or tails of what's going on there. There are hard/extreme modes of things for a reason, I don't think I will ever even bother with this fight on a higher difficulty.

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I am not a hardcore player. I don't do savage or EX trials, but something about that fight makes me want to play it on EX mode.

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Originally Posted by Chiapet

I think honestly the only thing I'd like changed if more camera room and the colors of the AOE markers for the fight. It is super hard to see the red box for the tail move with the blue line aoe markers of the flying ice shards at the same time. The red could be much brighter. It's very hard for my eyes to see it.

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I agree. The wider camera angle in particular. As an older person I would like to see more contrast between the light blues that are frequently used and the blue or grey floors. I had a past thread about this as we get older out sensitivity to color is reduced which can make it hard to distinguish between colors or similar hues.

Now that it's not gating an expansion like Steps of Faith, I'm sure the trial should be fine and won't need to be neutered like the last one.

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Originally Posted by Tatiana

I don't think a MSQ boss should be this difficult

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I had to do it three times, with three different parties. I even had to switch to SCH from my SMN main because I couldn't get decent healers.
The first two times, half of the team was in white gear, meaning that they didn't even do their Lv.70 job quest (or they didn't open their box, but that's even more dumb). Then, with these two first parties, we constantly had multiple people dying from the very fist mechanic, and even more dying during the add phase... even after multiple wipes and clear party chat explanations.

It's not only a case of the trial being hard. It has a lot to do with a lot of players being terrible. And until then, they could get away with it.

So, there's now the choice of dumbing down the content so these terrible players can continue their journey (while completly removing all the fun the more experienced people might also want out from the MSQ instead of it being a constant faceroll), or letting the Royal Menagerie like it currently is to act as a wake up call.

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Originally Posted by Tatiana

Honestly, this fight was both amazing and miserable at the same time. I don't think a MSQ boss should be this difficult,.

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It's not hard, people just don't bother to try. And Square haven't really given players anything to work with.

The fight doesn't need to be nerfed because like Thordan and Nidhogg, everyone's going to overgear the hell out of the fight later in the patch cycle anyway.

If Badam couldn't teach people how to move around then nerfing the fight won't help either. I hope they keep it how it is. IT felt like a real boss and not a pushover like Thordan. Please keep it how it is and get friends to help you clear it.

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Originally Posted by SaitoHikari

The fight doesn't need to be nerfed because like Thordan and Nidhogg, everyone's going to overgear the hell out of the fight later in the patch cycle anyway.

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To clarify your statement, because people will comment. The people running this in roulette/DF who have already cleared will be overgeared, not the first timer, which is still valid to your point.

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Originally Posted by SaitoHikari

The fight doesn't need to be nerfed because like Thordan and Nidhogg, everyone's going to overgear the hell out of the fight later in the patch cycle anyway.

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The best gear doesn't help you when 1/3 of the raid fall to their death at the first special attack (tidal wave), and every upcoming knockback,edgeslip and platform destruction that results in more casualties.
That's why I hate this trial - The longer the second phase lasts, the smaller the chance is to beat it. And when you wipe, it's all back to start.

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Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin

It will get nerfed and there is nothing wrong with that. You'll get your EX version.

Also clearly the fight is seen as a challenge as so many people are having issues with it, but I've beaten this to death in another thread. The "it's a final boss" excuse needs to stop. It's MSQ aka casual content.

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It's not hard, you just have to pay attention. Just because it's not a striking dummy like Thordan was doesn't mean it needs to be nerfed. It's the perfect difficulty honestly.