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    Please do not nerf the final boss

    The royal menagerie is one of the best fights I have played in a while, and I love it.

    SE, if you have any sense, please consider keeping this fight as is and using it as a means to prepare players for the harder content at endgame.

    The fight is by no means hard, and is as I would expect from a final boss.
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    I agree but with only one caveat: active time maneuver. Its not about being able to do it, it's merely the rapid fire clicking that one has to go through. Change it into an ATE that just doesn't involve the rapid clicking or something else entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I agree but with only one caveat: active time maneuver. Its not about being able to do it, it's merely the rapid fire clicking that one has to go through. Change it into an ATE that just doesn't involve the rapid clicking or something else entirely.
    I didn't mind it so much, I just mashed the keyboard and did it with 3 seconds to spare. I wouldn't miss it if it was gone though
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    It will get nerfed and there is nothing wrong with that. You'll get your EX version.

    Also clearly the fight is seen as a challenge as so many people are having issues with it, but I've beaten this to death in another thread. The "it's a final boss" excuse needs to stop. It's MSQ aka casual content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    The "it's a final boss" excuse needs to stop. It's MSQ aka casual content.
    Fair point, but I have to ask, why would it be designed with this challenge in mind in the first place? It's not unintentionally challenging, it is mechanic vomit that echoes the power of the boss.

    Thordan was faceroll, so was Ultima weapon, but for some reason the devs decided to make this one require a pulse and that seems very deliberate, and nerfing it into the ground undermines that point, just like steps of faith. People had no issue with Ultima weapon and thordan being faceroll because they were that way by design, however this boss is different and I'd like the devs to keep to that.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 06-25-2017 at 09:29 PM.

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    Is it really the button mash segment that ties up so many people? Could it be that the instructions are not clear?

    Here is what I mean, with the active time manuver bar, it show one button being pressed, yet it will respond to multiple buttons. I think a image of multiple buttons might suit it better.
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    If you want it to stay as it is, there's one simple way:
    Carry the bads through it, never leave just because it's a wipefest.

    SE isn't gonna act unless people are roadblocked and the people aren't going to bother improving over it. So someone needs to clear the roadblock for them if SE is to not act on it. No better person to do it than the people who don't want SE to act on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    It will get nerfed and there is nothing wrong with that. You'll get your EX version..
    the boss is casual. Just because you can't dodge doesnt mean it's hard. Yawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Is it really the button mash segment that ties up so many people? Could it be that the instructions are not clear?

    Here is what I mean, with the active time manuver bar, it show one button being pressed, yet it will respond to multiple buttons. I think a image of multiple buttons might suit it better.
    Sigh

    The instructions are clear. I'm referencing discomfort. I imagine on the controller, I'd use my thumb which is more preferable for me. Index finger mashing on the other hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Index finger mashing on the other hand...
    Fun fact on that note: PC users actually have an advantage here, as left clicking the button and hitting spacebar do the same thing - progress the bar -, so you can use both your hands to double the inputs.
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