Magic as a Main Theme in an Expansion?

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Originally Posted by Len

I should have been more specific; how many of those characters can you say fall into any of the magic jobs we have available to us? (Black Mage, White Mage, Summoner, Scholar, Astrologian)

None of them. It would benefit class identity if we had characters in the story that represented these jobs in the same vein as a Yugiri, Estinien, Thancred, and now the new characters being added in Stormblood.

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but they dont use magic and rogue thancred cant even use aether anymore.....I hope his one night stand with y'shtola was worth it

I imagine since Red Mage is being added (and IF it is a Sharlayan Job), -if- we go to Sharlayan in 5.0 as has been suggested in the past, that Derplander might go Red Mage in the cinematic. To explain a bit further, comments from the Developers in, I believe, one of the Live Letters, explained that the expansions 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0 are telling the story of the rebuilding of the Eorzean Alliance. 3.0 was about Ishgard, 4.0 is about Ala Mhigo, which leaves 5.0 to bring Sharlayan back. Any expansion that would feature Sharlayan would certainly be a Magic-Heavy expansion in terms of NPCs and story I bet.

Otherwise we have characters like Y'shtola, Alisae and Alphinaud, Urianger, Unukalhai, and formerly Papalymo, to build out that Magic role.

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Originally Posted by Len

I should have been more specific; how many of those characters can you say fall into any of the magic jobs we have available to us? (Black Mage, White Mage, Summoner, Scholar, Astrologian)

None of them. It would benefit class identity if we had characters in the story that represented these jobs in the same vein as a Yugiri, Estinien, Thancred, and now the new characters being added in Stormblood.

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Alphinaud is pretty clearly an Arcanist and is a main character throughout both ARR and Heavensward.

Also, with the way some lore works in this game, not everyone is running around as a "job". The Warrior of Light is a unique individual, and all of the other people you group with are merely adventurers. For instance, the Warrior of Light is able to become a White Mage, but there aren't hundreds of White Mages roaming Eorzea. It is a job that is very limited. The lore is actually sort of pesky given that all of the "adventurers" you team up with can have White Mage abilities. I imagine it's difficult to truly RP as a White Mage. As far as the main story goes, though, the Warrior of Light (you) is really the only person adventuring (potentially) as a White Mage.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

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Basically how the lore is when you think about it.

We even see in the game that the NPCs get their own version of Job skills but they themselves are not that job.

mmm there's obviously a sever lack of magic in FF games.
Louisioux calling on the 12 to seal Bahamut, doesn't count.
Estinien using the dragon eye, becoming nidhogg - Thordan and the knights becoming primals, doesn't either?
Sorry, but magic ALWAYS has a strong presence.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Sorry, but that's not true at all.

Y'shtola - whm
Minfillia
Alphie - smn
Papalymo - blm
Urianger - smn
Krile

There are a ridiculous number of highly visible magic-based characters in the story.

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Sorry using your post to help emphasize the point here for the OP on character roles. I've added the jobs roles into your post for the ones I was sure of.

One character you had missed was Alsisa or how ever it's spelt, not quite sure what she was job wise because she never summoned anything that I had seen but after her transforming her book into a sword causes me to suspect she becomes a rdm. There has been lots of magic aspects through out ARR, HW, and until the second expansion comes out to be sure there'll be magic aspects there too.

I'm sure at some point there will be an expansion that showcases a magic class in the future.

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Originally Posted by Len

I should have been more specific; how many of those characters can you say fall into any of the magic jobs we have available to us? (Black Mage, White Mage, Summoner, Scholar, Astrologian)

None of them. It would benefit class identity if we had characters in the story that represented these jobs in the same vein as a Yugiri, Estinien, Thancred, and now the new characters being added in Stormblood.

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Y'shtola is a WHM
Alphie is an Arcanist/SMN
Papalymo was a BLM and a WHM
Urianger is an Arcanist/SMN

Krile is the only one in my list besides Minfillia that isn't explicitly determined, though her clothing is that of a WHM from FF5.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

AST is kind of already a time mage.

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Hildibrand quest told me "No" to this false truth.
It's explained very well what is a Time Mage, and it's clearly not Astromancien.
Time Mage is a real job in the Old Sharlayan like it is with Astromancien.