Question to healers regarding Limit Break and Duty Finder

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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure a simple AoE heal provides way more healing than healer LB 1?

Just be passive aggressive and cast->cancel LB repeatedly until they get the hint.

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I dunno. I've never used healer LB1, Only LB2 and LB3. I always figured much like you that the 25% restoration isn't even worth it unless for some reason I am OOM, and the boss has just a little bit more health than we do. But I also always carry hi-elixers for such situations. I may have given off the impression that I am using it as a free heal. It's definitely a benefit for just me, but the frustration has more to do with DPS who don't use it, or save it more than what's necessary. In these cases, it is always very tempting for me to allow HP bars to drop more than my usual threshold to continue to DPS and then pop it.

Since I don't really play DPS to the extent I do my healers, I am not fully aware of their LB management. But I posted the thread here to see if there were like-minded or opposing healers to this method. It is never an intention for me to purposely set off the members of those I group with.

I also wish I could LB more :( sshhh! don't tell anyone

Just thought I'd post this from my most recent roulette. I'm telling you guys. This happens ALL the time *ramble ramble*:

I called for the DPS LB twice during the encounter. We have a caster to boot :|

http://i.imgur.com/dv7z8Tm.png?1

Ahhhh, screw it! Pikachu!!!

http://i.imgur.com/TG0wOaC.png

As a healer main myself, the time we use rez is if most of the party is dead, and you can't rez them all normally. If we use the lb for any other purpose, it's pretty much a waste.
Some people in 24man raids save the LB for the healer, just in case of a wipe.

Except for pvp! Healer LB in pvp is great, each individual player gets their own LB, and healer LB is used to heal after an aoe LB, or when your party is covered in Dots and would probably die/you OOM before being able to heal them.

Not really addressed to healers but to DPS. Saving the limit break for the final blow is kind of a waste.

Fun fact: Two level 1 limit breaks do the same damage as One level 2 Limit Break.

If you are melee dps in duty finder you should be using the limit break at the very start of the final boss. Most groups won't see the second bar fill up all the way and even if it did you could just use a level 1 lb again for the same cumulative damage.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Just thought I'd post this from my most recent roulette. I'm telling you guys. This happens ALL the time *ramble ramble*:

I called for the DPS LB twice during the encounter. We have a caster to boot :|

http://i.imgur.com/dv7z8Tm.png?1

Ahhhh, screw it! Pikachu!!!

http://i.imgur.com/TG0wOaC.png

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There's a psychological effect known as the "Bystander effect". Essentially, if you ask a group of people to help, chances are none of them will help and instead wait for someone else to. As the group becomes larger, this effect becomes more pronounced. As we see here though, the effect can even happen with as little as 2 individuals. This is why whenever I ask DPS to use a limit break, I will pick a specific party member and ask them by name to do so to cut out the diffusion of responsibility.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

There's a psychological effect known as the "Bystander effect". Essentially, if you ask a group of people to help, chances are none of them will help and instead wait for someone else to. As the group becomes larger, this effect becomes more pronounced. As we see here though, the effect can even happen with as little as 2 individuals. This is why whenever I ask DPS to use a limit break, I will pick a specific party member and ask them by name to do so to cut out the diffusion of responsibility.

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Gah! Now I feel like it was my fault. One player was new to the instance and asked how the fight went down, and I broke it down, and this was a perfect opportunity to let the BLM know to LB2 when the bars were filled.

I'm glad you mentioned it though, and I will definitely put it to use the next time. The other two members were mentors, can I blame them??

totally kidding :p

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Gah! Now I feel like it was my fault. One player was new to the instance and asked how the fight went down, and I broke it down, and this was a perfect opportunity to let the BLM know to LB2 when the bars were filled.

I'm glad you mentioned it though, and I will definitely put it to use the next time. The other two members were mentors, can I blame them??

totally kidding :p

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Nah, I wouldn't say it's your fault. You were at least more proactive than they were, and it's not immediately obvious that asking a single person to do something is better than asking multiple people.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

That is just it. It is typically saved until the last boss,

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If it wasn't used on the first boss, and I'm playing a ranged dps and the next pack is a large pull, I'm going to be using my Limit Break on that pack.