Liquid Flame is an example of how overly easy things are.

Can I honestly say that his hand form still hits like a bastard.

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Originally Posted by Yudzster

ramp up the difficulty, people will complain

ease the difficulty, people will complain

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Or you create multiple difficulty settings? E.g. run it at ilvl for higher rewards proportionate to the ilvl decreased in the sync, or run it normally.

This thread is a few weeks old.

People are facing roiling the content because they are mostly over geared.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Improvement correlates to the content you intend to do. If a person is not intending to do Savage, then they shouldn't need to have 100% uptime on DoTs, buffs, debuffs, etc. You don't hire an engineering specialist to fix your car, you also don't hire a catering service for a midnight snack. People will meet the experience level of the content, gradually, as they would. I didn't go from a Level 50 BLM that kept dying to Titan EX's plumes to a BLM that's managed to beat T13 overnight, it takes time, and expecting people to "git gud", so-to-speak, from just randomly implementing unforgiving mechanics in what is supposed to be content 100% of the endgame population can do is certainly not the right way to go about it..

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I don't disagree with this. I really don't but an "Expert" level dungeon should at least involve some level of difficulty. it is called "Expert" after all. it the difficulty should scale up as you go higher in content. where the problem is it simply doesn't do that. you have the faceroll simplicity of 99% of the content. then it's a sheer vertical cliff to the other 1% of the games content...

also mechanics don't have to be "unforgiving" but they don't have to be entirely laughable or avoidable either...

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Would you rather people just instantly died to every mechanic...?

Because with healers being as powerful as they are, there are only two kinds of mechanics - those that kill you and those you can forget about.

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I'd say this is part of the problem. It's a bit concerning when one can go in at entry level with an I160 staff and still spend 90% of the time dpsing.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

I'd say this is part of the problem. It's a bit concerning when one can go in at entry level with an I160 staff and still spend 90% of the time dpsing.

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I don't see that as the healers being too powerfull. It's more that the enemies are simply weak as hell.
it's the same reason tanks can spend so much time in dps stance. because enemies simply don't hit hard enough. that's the Problem.

it isn't powerfull heals that mean tanks can pull 20 mobs at once. its that fact that none of them mobs hit hard enough to be dangerous.
the same reason healers spend so much time in cleric stance, because theres never anything to heal...

We need 8 man raid dungeons again, like Cutter's Cry and Aurun Vale were during 1.x

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Originally Posted by Airget

Dungeons are designed to add in new mechanics in such a way that they are easy to digest, so that later on when you see them in harder content they are easier to react to because you are aware of what's going on.

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This is true. I jokingly refer to the last boss of Sohm Al as "T9 training" because the mechanic makes perfect sense if you've done T9, but if you're coming through the dungeon for the first time it's quite confusing.

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Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow

This thread is a few weeks old.

People are facing roiling the content because they are mostly over geared.

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It is very much current content, so this only adds to the problem, rather than being an excuse.

Let me frame it ONLY a few weeks old.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

I don't see that as the healers being too powerfull. It's more that the enemies are simply weak as hell.

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I disagree. I see it more as the fact healers are too overpowered in their own primary function. But, we'll agree to disagree.