The interface is sucking my soul

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11-15-2011, 06:51 PM
Answa

It got past the drawing board because this is how Final Fantasy titles work. Menus. Honestly, did you guys ever play FFXI? It's the same thing, only it takes slightly longer. Sure, I'd want it streamlined, but this doesn't bother me at all. It'd just be a bonus.
11-15-2011, 09:07 PM
Hitoriki

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Originally Posted by Answa

It got past the drawing board because this is how Final Fantasy titles work. Menus. Honestly, did you guys ever play FFXI? It's the same thing, only it takes slightly longer. Sure, I'd want it streamlined, but this doesn't bother me at all. It'd just be a bonus.

I have no problems with using menus. I would actually not even mind keeping this UI in 2.0 as long as it allowed skinning/addons as well. The problem is that it is painstakingly slow and cumbersome.
11-15-2011, 09:12 PM
Sylvari

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Originally Posted by Hitoriki

I have no problems with using menus. I would actually not even mind keeping this UI in 2.0 as long as it allowed skinning/addons as well. The problem is that it is painstakingly slow and cumbersome.

I have no problems with it as is aside from how slow it is to move/sell items and the limited amount of slots for trading.
11-16-2011, 02:09 AM
Kymusashi

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Originally Posted by Answa

It got past the drawing board because this is how Final Fantasy titles work. Menus. Honestly, did you guys ever play FFXI? It's the same thing, only it takes slightly longer. Sure, I'd want it streamlined, but this doesn't bother me at all. It'd just be a bonus.

Yes, that's how RPGs do indeed work, but FFXI never had you opening a menu to select a door, or a treasure chest, or an crystal. Those things were clickable. It's that kind of dumb garbage that never should have even been considered.
11-16-2011, 02:13 AM
Delsus

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Originally Posted by Kymusashi

Yes, that's how RPGs do indeed work, but FFXI never had you opening a menu to select a door, or a treasure chest, or an crystal. Those things were clickable. It's that kind of dumb garbage that never should have even been considered.

But to open a chest you had to target it, open a menu, trade, another menu opens, open another menu to select the key then hit enter and the chest opens.

Also have you played since 1.19 came out crystals and chests are targetable.
11-16-2011, 02:19 AM
AngryNixon

FFXI is old. That was 2003, this is 2011. FFXI's interface shortcomings do not have to be FFXIV's just because it shares the FF lineage. Thankfully most of this is moot in 2.0 but just because something is an FF MMO doesn't mean it has to keep carrying over all the less than efficient design choices.
11-16-2011, 02:22 AM
Delsus

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Originally Posted by AngryNixon

FFXI is old. That was 2003, this is 2011. FFXI's interface shortcomings do not have to be FFXIV's just because it shares the FF lineage. Thankfully most of this is moot in 2.0 but just because something is an FF MMO doesn't mean it has to keep carrying over all the less than efficient design choices.

FF1 is old, people didnt complain that the PSP version has the same ineficiant interface, same with FF3 and FF4, FF games have used menu based interfaces all its life even FFXIII uses it and it wasnt trolled like this one has been just because its slow, which can be fixed by bringing it to the client rather than the server.
11-16-2011, 02:23 AM
Starlord

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Originally Posted by AmyRae

Even if the transactions take awhile, with the right interface you could queue several transactions at once. The transactions in WoW aren't always immediate, but because you can keep clicking on everything you want to sell, it's not painful at all. It's the one-by-one item interface in FFXIV that aggravates the experience, making each transaction delay that much more excruciating.

(I do realize that the UI in FFXIV has been cleaned up a bit to require fewer clicks since this video was posted over a year ago, but fundamentally, the transaction delay problem is the same.)

LOL, you picked out a video @ Launch lol. thats why its slow then, right now its not really that slow ( at least to me) and I dont wait for more than 4 seconds , maybe 2 tops but not 4 lol
11-16-2011, 02:25 AM
Kymusashi

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Originally Posted by Delsus

But to open a chest you had to target it, open a menu, trade, another menu opens, open another menu to select the key then hit enter and the chest opens.

Also have you played since 1.19 came out crystals and chests are targetable.

I was referring to making it passed the drawing board, so i mean the beginning. There's just no reason to not make any of those things unclickable. Its counterintuitive.
11-16-2011, 02:34 AM
Delsus

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Originally Posted by Kymusashi

I was referring to making it passed the drawing board, so i mean the beginning. There's just no reason to not make any of those things unclickable. Its counterintuitive.

For the UI, the drawing board is irellevent, the beginning is irellevent, we shall add your biological and technological distinctivness to our own, resistance if futile. Sorry had to get that one in there, but seriously in alpha we could target crystals and with the UI it was terrible, which is why they stopped it, but now the UI has improved they reimplemented it.

They know they failed and are learning from it, which is what matters, where have you been for the last year?

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