What if I don't WANT skills on my bar?

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Originally Posted by Ruinaru

Fair enough, I'm sure there will be a good few that won't get used as often as others, but overall I think they will all get used more evenly than they do now.

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I can definitely agree with that. After the streamlining, addition of Combos and "Some abilities will have their full potential unleashed when used by their original class" most, if not all main fifteen abilities might see more love than cross class actions.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Which isn't the case once they implement the skill changes, which it seems to be the main thing forgotten, they're everything is being rebalanced and the potency is being level dependent.

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You assume every skill will be useful.

So lets talk about THM.

Are the absorb spells going to be on my bar permanently? Do I really need to absorb attack every fkn mob? Nope. How about Drain?

Con: Paralyna GREAT! I need that once a freekin year.

etc...

Thanks for forcing them on my bar.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

You assume every skill will be useful.

So lets talk about THM.

Are the absorb spells going to be on my bar permanently? Do I really need to absorb attack every fkn mob? Nope. How about Drain?

Con: Paralyna GREAT! I need that once a freekin year.

Thanks for keeping that on my bar SE.

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But you won't be hurting for space on the bar in any way, so what's the problem...? Put them out of the way, and don't use them. You aren't gonna have to wade through seas of terrible abilities to get to the ones you like. You can arrange everything however you like, with the exception of removing them completely.

Use macros then.

a whole nother issue is, how easy is it going to be to move? currently skills like this which cannot be taken off your bar, can only be moved by putting a skill you already have placed into the same slot. New people are often baffled as to the means of moving skills like this (like spirit dart) If this mechanic isnt changed it will be highly annoying for 15 of your skills.

I hope they are at least reworking the inner workings of the menu so this will be alot more intuitive.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Which isn't the case once they implement the skill changes, which it seems to be the main thing forgotten, they're everything is being rebalanced and the potency is being level dependent.

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Nothing is ever perfectly balanced though. I can practically guarantee that there will be useless skills even after the reform. . .

While I agree, there is no real reason to not allow us to manage our bars in whatever way we want... thread is lol at best...

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Originally Posted by Physic

a whole nother issue is, how easy is it going to be to move? currently skills like this which cannot be taken off your bar, can only be moved by putting a skill you already have placed into the same slot. New people are often baffled as to the means of moving skills like this (like spirit dart) If this mechanic isnt changed it will be highly annoying for 15 of your skills.

I hope they are at least reworking the inner workings of the menu so this will be alot more intuitive.

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I believe they said you'll be able to drag and drop abilities wherever you want on the bar after they've been placed.

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Originally Posted by Ruinaru

But you won't be hurting for space on the bar in any way, so what's the problem...? Put them out of the way, and don't use them. You aren't gonna have to wade through seas of terrible abilities to get to the ones you like. You can arrange everything however you like, with the exception of removing them completely.

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Look, I'm not arguing that I don't have space. I get that.

Why am I forced to have them on my bar?

Thats my question.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

Look, I'm not arguing that I don't have space. I get that.

Why am I forced to have them on my bar?

Thats my question.

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I know you get that. I'm illustrating a point. Their presence isn't hurting you in any way, so why do they need to be removed completely? Why are you so opposed to them being there?