Kefka Palazzo (Final Fantasy VI)

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Because she comes from the void, which is implied to cover all of Final Fantasy and she can't truly die.

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But her role was fullfilled in her original game. Now what about Krile? FFXIV's Krile has nothing in common with her original counterpart (save for the sharp mouth and wit) - and not only her, but the Baldesion family, Val Isle and even Galuf himself gets referenced. Isn't that introducing "characters that are already dead or whose role has ended in their title"?

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

But her role was fullfilled in her original game. Now what about Krile? FFXIV's Krile has nothing in common with her original counterpart (save for the sharp mouth and wit) - and not only her, but the Baldesion family, Val Isle and even Galuf himself gets referenced. Isn't that introducing "characters that are already dead or whose role has ended in their title"?

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Not if it isn't the same exact character. If it was the same exact Galuf from FF5, then sure. It isn't the same Galuf and Krile. Making references to previous FF's is just fine and they have been doing that with every FF titles past 1. They are just not bringing the same exact character unless it can be made sense into the lore of the world and not conflict with the lore in the title the character comes from.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

Now what about Krile? FFXIV's Krile has nothing in common with her original counterpart (save for the sharp mouth and wit) - and not only her, but the Baldesion family, Val Isle and even Galuf himself gets referenced. Isn't that introducing "characters that are already dead or whose role has ended in their title"?

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The Krile you know from V isn't the same person as the Krile from XIV. Same goes for Matoya, the Galuf that was mentioned, Warring Triad, characters in the Crystal Tower arc (Except Cloud of Darkness) etc.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Not if it isn't the same exact character. If it was the same exact Galuf from FF5, then sure. It isn't the same Galuf and Krile. Making references to previous FF's is just fine and they have been doing that with every FF titles past 1. They are just not bringing the same exact character unless it can be made sense into the lore of the world and not conflict with the lore in the title the character comes from.

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So they could make a FFXIV version of Kefka if they wanted to do it, even using the same name.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

So they could make a FFXIV version of Kefka if they wanted to do it, even using the same name.

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Sure.....technically.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

So they could make a FFXIV version of Kefka if they wanted to do it, even using the same name.

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They could, yes. Will they. Well not even in name only if certain theories are true...

Its important to note that the characters that received this treatment are either form the Void or are portrayed as Good Guys. Kefka is nether. On the other hand there is still the Warring Triad an Xande in addition to the Cloud of Darkness.

In regards to the Cloud of DArkness. She can't die. She IS the void. They didn't even kill her in FF3 and she'll be back eventually. Same as Exdeath, his seal could break at some point considering he's still just void manifestation. Both of them Tier 1 Voidsent. Pity that scathach got bumped down to tier 2 voidsent, would have been cool to have a 3rd tier one involved

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

Well, they added Cloud of Darkness, wich brings everything Yoshida said down to nothing.

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Xande and Cloud of Darkness are rewritten. They share the same appearance, but their backgrounds are different. Xande was the emperor of Allag and feared his death would have his accomplishments fade away with him (whereas in FFIII, he just didn't accept that mortality was his reward or something and Cloud of Darkness coerced him to do the bad things), hence why he sought the Cloud of Darkness.

Triple Triad card for Cloud of Darkness: "One of the undisputed rulers of the void and an entity of immeasurable strength, the Cloud of Darkness occupies the highest rung of the hierarchy of twelve. This terrifying voidsent entered into a dark covenant with Emperor Xande of Allag in a bid to invade the physical realm."

Basically, for a "cameo" appearance for a character like Kefka, they'd have to be given a different background (which could mean everything you love about Kefka could/would be absent) to make sense in FFXIV's world.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Basically, for a "cameo" appearance for a character like Kefka, they'd have to be given a different background (which could mean everything you love about Kefka could/would be absent) to make sense in FFXIV's world.

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And that right there is probably one of the reasons why Yoshida is distant about reusing characters with established histories. Xande and the Cloud of Darkness didn't have much to them, so they were easy to rewrite and fit into FFXIV's lore. Someone like Kefka? Well, I am not sure how they could retain the qualities of a lunatic clown man drunk on godhood without completely destroying his character and keeping to the lore of this game (frankly, a character doing stuff for the lulz in a setting like FF14 just wouldn't jive with me). The moment the devs rewrite Kefta into anything else, the fans are gonna go up in arms with torches and pitchforks.

FFVI is truly the most memorable Final Fantasy game I've played.

Truly a masterpiece.

I would be contented with Kefka coming into the picture and poisoning Doma all over again. He will be torturing the people of Doma and killing a family of a certain noble samurai (hint).

And that would be the birth of the SAM job.