Paladin Materia

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

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SE played a pretty convincing illusion with this. I was almost convinced that the Tp reductions in 3.2 would be enough, because I was having no problem managing my Tp in the new content ... and then I did my lvl 50 roulette and flat lined my Tp twice in a single dungeon run.

As for Fracture, I don't know if this is true or not because I haven't tested it myself, but I was told by another Pld, once, that Fracture can still be a Dps gain in the OT position if your skill speed is high enough (and he did specify the OT position only). I'm not sure what kind of numbers this guy was running, though. I kinda thought that he was talking out of his butt, but Fernosaur's post is making me take a second look at it.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Now, I don't know the gear tree at lvl 60 yet, so you all can tell me whether there is ever an opportunity for this but, I was thinking that if there were any situations where you have a primary stat opening but can't throw VIT or STR on, then I might add some Mind or Piety, Mind to help boost my heals (such as they are) and PIety to increase MP longevity - since we can't increase our TP longevity.

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You'll want to stick to the standard secondaries (ACC/Crit/Det/SKS). Mind and Piety are worthless for a PLD since tank self heals are based off of attack power (STR and VIT) and the MP you'd gain from even full Piety melds would be barely noticeable in the grand scheme of things.

You also shouldn't be seeing too many issues with MP unless you're doing nothing but spamming Flash or using Clemency often since SE gave PLDs a reason to use their Riot Blade combo (Goring Blade) outside of just replenishing MP.

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Originally Posted by Februs

I'm not sure what kind of numbers this guy was running, though. I kinda thought that he was talking out of his butt, but Fernosaur's post is making me take a second look at it.

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I intend to try and stack as much SKSPD as I can in the future and see if I can make it to 700 just so I can test all of this out. It might take a while, though, and a lot of materia IVs :'D, but I'll get back to this thread as soon as I have something slightly more conclusive. To be completely honest, I don't think it's gonna be worth it to give up on Crit and Det in favor of the slight DPS gain Fracture might give, but you never know! It might be that just having enough Skillspeed to get one Fracture, two GBs and two RAs into a FoF window might be good enough?

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Originally Posted by Fernosaur

I don't think it's gonna be worth it to give up on Crit and Det in favor of the slight DPS gain Fracture might give, but you never know! It might be that just having enough Skillspeed to get one Fracture, two GBs and two RAs into a FoF window might be good enough?

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Don't forget that SkS also basically increase your DPS.
And, if Ariyala's weight are to be trusted, SkS is actually better than Determination when it comes to melding rank IV materias (Since rank IV offers 9 SkS over 6 Deter)

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Don't forget that SkS also basically increase your DPS.
And, if Ariyala's weight are to be trusted, SkS is actually better than Determination when it comes to melding rank IV materias (Since rank IV offers 9 SkS over 6 Deter)

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Skillspeed sucks pretty bad IMO, mainly because for PLD, you work with 9 GCDs limitation (GB>RA/RoH>RA/RoH). I had 685 SS before switching 1 part, and I had the consistent problem with clipping Goring Blade early by 1 GCD, and again, Fracture isn't worth for the most part to use (Potency changes on RA and GB pretty much outscales Fracture), except maybe during the FoF CD uptime or when you need to leave boss to do mechanic.

So the bet is still on Crit/Det for the most part.