*SPOILERS!* A roadmap from 3.1 to 4.0

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Originally Posted by Fenral

We have too met a Student of Baldesion! Just... him being a Student was apparently little more than a meaningless and entirely superficial introductory note to be promptly forgotten the second Allagan clones got involved. Apparently. If and when we meet a Student of Baldesion whose nature as such is actually a relevant detail, will they even acknowledge his membership, I wonder...

Leaving the sellotaped fragments of my heart aside, we have no idea what's going on with Omega, but we do know that the guy who refurbished the last anti-primal weapon is currently out there, somewhere. Considering the story looks to be moving towards the city where Ultima Weapon was recovered, we might finally start seeing Nero actually do something for a change.

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I won't be too surprised if there's a Heart of Sabik-y mechanism at Silvertear(hence the 1.0 cinematic) that'll eventually be used in Omega's reactivation.

Speaking of maps I hope we get a full world map soon, I wanna see where mentioned cities/provinces are actually located and how small eorzea is to everything else. (Aldenard is apparently the smallest of the three connected continents.)

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Originally Posted by VargasVermillion

Speaking of maps I hope we get a full world map soon, I wanna see where mentioned cities/provinces are actually located and how small eorzea is to everything else. (Aldenard is apparently the smallest of the three connected continents.)

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I wanna know where Myracydia is. And more importantly, what it looks like now after being ravaged by the Allagan 5000 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

The real question at this point is which is the bigger threat? Personally I feel it's the Warring Triad, though I expect the story will focus more on Nidhogg because dragons.

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The Warring Triad stuff is probably going to be dealt with as a continuation of the Extreme primal quest line (speaking of which, we still know almost nothing about Unukalhai, and whatever Urianger is up to), since that's the only place where it's really been paid that much attention.

Nidnogg, on the other hand, will probably a continuation of the MSQ.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

Being a Student of Baldesion does not automatically guarantee MSQ relevancy.

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Yes, thank you Cilia. I'm also pretty sure he was never actually meant to be relevant, for the record, but for the love of the Twelve you have to admit he is still a really freaking bizarre outlier in a setting with otherwise fairly tight rules on what is allowed to show up where.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

Just for the record, Rammbroes (of the Sons of Saint Coinach) is also a Student of Baldesion, or an ex member.

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Also, pedantic correction: he's formerly of the Circle of Knowing, not the Students. In fact, he's the only ex-Circle member we've seen outside of the MSQ. Hmm, sounds familiar. A single outlier can neither prove nor disprove anything. That's what makes them an outlier.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

I wanna know where Myracydia is. And more importantly, what it looks like now after being ravaged by the Allagan 5000 years ago.

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Probably just fine. Maybe underpopulated due to the Miqo'te migration to Eorzea, but probably fine. The plants have likely overgrown most of the continent, and the jungle that we know was there is probably still there.

I expect part of 3.1 will be dealing with the fallout from overthrowing Ishgard's government. Either stopping a counter-revolution and/or preventing a Jacobian bloodbath.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

Yes, thank you Cilia. I'm also pretty sure he was never actually meant to be relevant, for the record, but for the love of the Twelve you have to admit he is still a really freaking bizarre outlier in a setting with otherwise fairly tight rules on what is allowed to show up where.

Also, pedantic correction: he's formerly of the Circle of Knowing, not the Students. In fact, he's the only ex-Circle member we've seen outside of the MSQ. Hmm, sounds familiar. A single outlier can neither prove nor disprove anything. That's what makes them an outlier.

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It's a bit odd, but I wasn't aware that it was a hard and fast rule that "Student of Baldesion" = Important in the Main Scenario. It's just unusual to meet one, since the Students are from Sharlayan which is a traditionally neutral nation. (Think Switzerland.)

I'd argue the bar for MSQ relevancy is whether or not they have a voiced cutscene. Though this makes Elidibus unusual in 2.x, you know he's important since he's a friggin' Ascian, and lo and behold he's voiced in 3.0.

Correct on Rammbroes; I realized it when I was trying to get to sleep.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

I'd argue the bar for MSQ relevancy is whether or not they have a voiced cutscene. Though this makes Elidibus unusual in 2.x, you know he's important since he's a friggin' Ascian, and lo and behold he's voiced in 3.0.

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For me the bar on a character being important to the MSQ is whether or not they have a voice. The bar on if they'll die is whether or not they have a unique character model. This has not failed me yet.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

It's a bit odd, but I wasn't aware that it was a hard and fast rule that "Student of Baldesion" = Important in the Main Scenario. It's just unusual to meet one, since the Students are from Sharlayan which is a traditionally neutral nation. (Think Switzerland.)

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That's precisely why I think it's odd. It would be one thing if we ran into a small group of Students out on an expedition somewhere, at some point, just doing their Baldesion thing in a small side-story with phat lootz and exp to reward us for stopping to say hi (I actually expected to see one in Heavensward). It's quite another when [kupo] starts going down with the Students in the MSQ and, lo and behold, in that very same patch we have a Student of Baldesion, and the first with a name and somewhat-unique model, at that, dropping in to hang out with a number of known, voiced NPCs from the main scenario. Ramnbroes actually even cites the Isle of Val incident when calling BS on Doga and Unei's shabby cover story, but that's the last anyone mentions of it, and the entire thing is simply forgotten once the hook has served its purpose.

Sure, there's no rule, and sure, it's a subversion of our expectations, but what does that subversion actually accomplish for the purposes of world cohesiveness and the ongoing narrative? I suppose there's always a possibility of an upcoming Postmoogle quest where the Students send Ramnbroes a letter asking when they can expect to have their observer back, but until then, it's really just a weird convergence of outliers that's just sort of sitting there on a small, isolated island in an otherwise connected setting. There has to be a connection somewhere, at some point, right?