new crafted gear useless for raid and so is materia V?

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

Why do crafters need to feel important to endgame raiders? I really cannot understand this. I don't want to have to depend on crafters, and now that we are finally in this situation of not needing them and their nice prices, so much crafter qq. Can't u be happy making housing items and glamour prisms?

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Troll will be troll, yes crafting should have zero to do with raiding, lol. That's the answer!



OP, of course you are right. SE failed miserably to strike a good balance and anyone who enjoys crafting is paying for it. Honestly, these developers just seem to find maintaining a good balance between crafting and raiding extraordinarily difficult.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

Penta-melded 150 accessories are great for ALL tanks in progression, not just WAR.

Sure, there's situations where an MT may need more VIT, but having that set is godly for when you don't

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Five 150 accessories vs five 200 VIT accessories means 155 STR vs 75 VIT.

75 VIT comes out to just over 1500 HP. That is nothing compared to 155 STR. And it doesn't take penta-melding, those secondary stats are nothing in comparison. STR accessories, VIT V, and VIT IV x2.

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

And additional competition wouldn't mitigate this?

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What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

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Originally Posted by Kaedan94

Which is pure, unadulterated greed, and encourages gil buying.

An intelligent business sets prices at reasonable levels. Even monopolies (which is essentially what you are describing) set reasonable prices. DeBeers has a monopoly on diamonds, and they could set prices at "whatever they feel like" (and they do), but they realize (like the intelligent people they are) that if they set them too high, that nobody would buy them because they simply couldn't afford them.

Unfortunately, a lot of greedy crafters don't have that level of intellect. Or they do, and they are actually relying on people buying gil (sometimes because they sell the gil they get to RMT companies).

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This guy, lmao.. This guy just used DIAMONDS as an example of reasonable pricing via monopolies?

WAHAHAHA!

Ok, the nonsense has now reached an intolerable level.
Crafting in HW makes more sense than this, lmao

"Monopolies are reasonable! Just look at diamonds."

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Originally Posted by Kaedan94

Which is pure, unadulterated greed, and encourages gil buying.

An intelligent business sets prices at reasonable levels. Even monopolies (which is essentially what you are describing) set reasonable prices. DeBeers has a monopoly on diamonds, and they could set prices at "whatever they feel like" (and they do), ...

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Companies sell at the price that maximises profit. To think otherwise is naive.

It's competition that pushes prices down. Monopolies literally charge what the market will bare - maximising (number of units * profit per unit).

A part from monopolies, the only other time when competition is restricted is when all producers cooperate to fix prices. But with 1000s of crafters per server, you have got to be delusional to think thats even remotely possible.

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Originally Posted by Kiyyto

"Monopolies are reasonable! Just look at diamonds."

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You might want to try reading again. I said that a real life monopoly (DeBeers) is MORE reasonable than the pricing in this game. While monopolies are illegal for a reason (hence why DeBeers operates where they are not), it's to illustrate that some of the crafters in this game are even worse.

DeBeers at least prices their goods at an affordable level (if still high and borderline unreasonable). Many crafters in FF price at outrageously not affordable levels... which encourages gil buying.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

Five 150 accessories vs five 200 VIT accessories means 155 STR vs 75 VIT.

75 VIT comes out to just over 1500 HP. That is nothing compared to 155 STR. And it doesn't take penta-melding, those secondary stats are nothing in comparison. STR accessories, VIT V, and VIT IV x2.

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I have two Slaying, 3 Fending. Still need to get a STR 3 in one (none on MB :( ) and I'm still going to penta my two slaying acc (prob add Crit cause my Fell Cleave just outright refuses to crit)

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Originally Posted by Bishop81

Companies sell at the price that maximises profit. To think otherwise is naive.

It's competition that pushes prices down. Monopolies literally charge what the market will bare - maximising (number of units * profit per unit).

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This is precisely what I just said. The issue is that some crafters in FF price BEYOND bearable levels... thus encouraging gil buying. And as I said, in many cases those same crafters actually go and sell that gil back to the RMT companies.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan94

This is precisely what I just said. The issue is that some crafters in FF price BEYOND bearable levels... thus encouraging gil buying. And as I said, in many cases those same crafters actually go and sell that gil back to the RMT companies.

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If you read the rest of the post, I'm explained why that isn't possible.

Collusion isn't possible. Not with no mechanism to enforce the cartel and the relatively low barriers of entry. The fact that all tradeable items in FFXIV are commodities makes it even worse.

You might want to try reading... At all?
You just tried to correct me for writing exactly what you've written, twice

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I'm sorry but you know nothing about diamonds, monopolies, or possibly crafting (if you think the diamond cartel is more reasonable than Ffxiv crafting)

But Ty for the giggles.