PLD abilities.

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Originally Posted by Yorumi

I don't have dps parses but people say shield swipe is a dps loss and it's 10 less potency than fracture. So i'm pretty confident fracture is too. Even if somehow it's not, 80 tp for 220 potency isn't worth it at all. So yeah you're right about it eating tp. Even though there's not much else I don't even keep it cross classed.

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Yes, Fracture is a DPS loss in the end, and big TP drain. The reason why Shield Swipe is good though is for the TP maintenance. Half the TP of Fracture while only 10 potency less. The ideal number of Shield Swipes per 3 hit rotation is 2 for a 10 minute fight, as this will allow you to preserve your TP pool through out the 10 minute fight with no waiver in your DPS. It equates to the highest possible potency output in fact over never using it or just using it once per 3 hit combo for a 10 minute fight. However, this is assuming there are no points in the fight that you're not doing damage, and getting 2 Shield Swipes per 3 hit combo is difficult sometimes. 1 Shield Swipe per combo is fairly normal though, and with just one, you'll not run out of TP for about 5 minutes and 30 seconds. But not using it at all means a total TP loss in about 3 minutes.

I'm not sure if I can take this thread seriously when goring blade is called a low potency attack, considering it borders on being a chaos thrust level dot.

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Originally Posted by Starbirth

PLD rotation is as follows

FoF/BB -> Enimty skill of your choice* -> Spirits Within -> Fast Blade -> CoS* -> Riot Blade -> Sheltron** -> Goring Blade -> Fast Blade -> Savage Blade -> RoH -> Fast Blade -> Savage Blade -> Royal Authority -> Repeat while using CoS/SW and Defensive CDs off GCD.

*If you used CoS as an opener your doing it wrong.
** If your still having trouble solidifying agro at this point throw out the Shield Swipe you get from Sheltron after Goring Blade and do this only at the start of the rotation. If thats still not enough then do RoH combo first instead of Goring.

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This opener is slightly off. You don't want to use FoF and BB before the engage. You use it after the lob. Also, delaying the CoS 2 GCDs after the FoF and using it after SW means you will not fit 2 into the duration of 1 FoF unless you have skill speed on your gear and you ideally shouldn't. You won't get 2 SWs in 1 FoF so using it before CoH has no upside.

Actually it is incorrect to say pld brings the only str debuff.

War's Storm's Path is 10% to ALL damage incuding str.

That said why bring any other tank then ? Just slap War type DPS, DRK Magic Defense, tell other tanks to go home. PLD has the best Physical Mitigation, DRK Magic, War Offensive.

i think they should improve flash like make the blind last longer on each flash e.g.. first flash blinds for 18 or 20 secs second 12 third 8 4th 6

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Originally Posted by Noira

Actually it is incorrect to say pld brings the only str debuff.

War's Storm's Path is 10% to ALL damage incuding str.

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RoH and SP stack and currently their is no other source of either maintainable debuff. Delirium is the odd ability out, Dragon Kick has an enhanced -10% int effect.

A lot of people are down on Clemency in this thread.

As someone who mained WHM for all of 2.x and switched to tank for the expansion, I feel that Clemency is one of the best skills in the game. Jesus, the amount of lives I've saved with it as the tank is unreal. And let's not even talk about all the DF groups wherein the healer died on a boss and it'd have been a wipe if I were any other tank class.

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Originally Posted by Vrmillion

A lot of people are down on Clemency in this thread.

As someone who mained WHM for all of 2.x and switched to tank for the expansion, I feel that Clemency is one of the best skills in the game. Jesus, the amount of lives I've saved with it as the tank is unreal. And let's not even talk about all the DF groups wherein the healer died on a boss and it'd have been a wipe if I were any other tank class.

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I love clemency too. Somehow last night a whm ran out of mp, I took over healing during the fight, spamming riot blade, until the whm had recovered. It was great.

Just a genera tip for plds, use it to help your healers out. They may not NEED it but it's appreciated. Dps takes a hit and healer is busy topping you off, heal the dps. Party wide aoe begins charaging, precast clemency on someone or yourself. It's basically the only thing a pld's mp is useful for right now so use it.

All the paladins need to be perfect is
1) Make it so that divine veil can not be canceled out by another person's healing ability.

2) Make Sheltron capable of blocking a magical or physical attack.

3) Increase the potency on Royal authority to 350 and on savage blade to 210 and on goring blade to 230.

4) change it so that goring blade's dot does not cancel out Rage of Halone's strength reduction.

I do kinda wish that Clemency was either a HoT or had a shorter cast time. The ability sounds cool on paper but it's hard to find a time to use it before a healer beats you to the punch.