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I agree the game is not very social. The map is not an open one right away. And you're forced to solo the story quests, the classes/jobs quests, and when you run out of quests on the map you have to do leves or guildleves which are solo too. The few times you meet people it's in the duty finder, and they're too busy to rush everything to chat, and the few times you do talk you realize you're not on the same server anyway. FF XIV has been the loniest and least social MMO I've played so far, but personally I think the game was designed that way. After all the devs are the ones who decided to force everyone to solo most everything and that you cannot do anything as a group on the map, beside fates.
The most social and fun MMO to me was Lord of the Rings Online. The map was open and you could walk from the Shire to Rivendel. Some of the quests were soloable, some were harder and required a small team of 2-3, which did not require hours to find. Some of the story quests were solable and some hard that required a group. Many RP events happened on my server Landroval like music festivals or story tellings per example. It was quite lively.
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ff14 is better then most mmo's in my opinion and ive played alot.. nothin worse then not being able to find a party for the first dungeon in an mmo cause cant find people to join due to every1 at end game.. personally love the df finder n item sync features of ff14 cause ur not sittin around for hours waitin for some1 kind enough to join ur team to help you..
atleast 10 games i tried i quit b4 even completeing firstdungeon due to the fact impossible to get teams so being more solo based content except for raids is great for me :P
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You'd be surprised what good can come of attacking random strangers every once in a while. ^.
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It took me a few fc's to feel like I got in one where I really belong, because the one I was in before had about 90 members and was similar to the one you're in now. One that has the 10 people at the top who do everything together and raid together and talk together, but do the least possible to integrate the other members. I got tired of being just a headcount because I know I'm so much more capable than that. There are good groups out there, you've just got to find the one that's a good fit for you. Search and you'll find it :) They can get better!
And, as far as dungeons go, df is a place where I don't do much socializing unless I have to explain mechanics or something. Like others have said, the game doesn't really encourage it anyways since we get mixed in cross server play. If you are looking for solid social interaction I think you need a good fc.
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Welcome to online community where if you talk too much, you're labeled as mad talker, when you try to talk about game topic you'd be labeled as ranting/know it all, and if you talk about real life problem no one's gonna bother because "i dont want to deal with problems arising from stranger i know from virtual world"..
Hmm.. I may be very overly sensitive about this but, that's how i feel mostly..
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The big problem is indeed in fact no one talks anymore. I used to do the same but now every duty I do, I always say hello and/or try to spark a convo. Personally the game becomes 10x more fun when you are talking with your party members than just completing the duty in total silence. Ironically that's why I love doing Alliance Raids. Sure you have trolls but overall its more engaging because people are talking about something. Even if it's bs or w/e, I love reading my chat and seeing the funny macros.
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I personally don't really mind the "single player" feeling, since I don't particularly like to start conversations. It's hard for me. I will, though, talk to people if they speak to me.
I don't talk much during dungeons because of that, and because I'm lazy and play with a controller... reaching at a weird angle to type is uncomfortable so. Nah.
I do play with friends, though. In fact, I met most of my in-game friends thanks to someone randomly /tell-ing me when I was new.
I've also met a few people by hunting and dungeon runs. Something happens in a dungeon, we end up talking, boom new friend. Or, hunting party and need seals, so I have to join up with strangers. You can end up bonding over hunting frustrations, haha. In fact sometimes I feel like I talk to TOO MANY people in a period of time, and it's hard to ask to be left alone (without sounding like a jerk...ugh).
Anyway tl;dr, you can make the game more social for you if you go out and talk to people, or engage in conversation if spoken to. Being able to play the game completely by yourself however isn't terrible.
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I disagree. I've been playing MMOs since 2003. This community is, in some ways, a progression of the community in FFXI, where after x amount of years, and the majority of people moved on to either WoW or whatever. This left the solitary hardcore fans to stick behind, and if i had to guess, feel like they were left behind in some ways. WoW was notorious for its map/trade chats, and many MMOs thereafter always had lively chats. The reason being is that player interaction was required. Now, with the "Looking for x" features that are around, people are less needful to chat to obtain help on things, as the content has more and more become single player paced.
Its funny that in FFXI, we had an extreme where people HAD to group up together in order to progress, and now we've come to a point where this simply isn't necessary to be a part of the social game.
WoW's current xpac had drawn the ire of the fans that although its more convenient, Garrisons have destroyed what little part of social skills were needed to make it feel like an MMO. Meanwhile, games like GW2 have been built to reward social interaction on many different levels (however, failing at most everything else).
I think on the industry level, a perfect meld between FFXIV and GW2, would be the answer. Now, lets see if the MMO gods will ever acknowledge that.
In the meantime, it is what you make it, so keep searching for the FC that will make you feel comfortable in game, because they do exist. :)
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I feel the same way though my server tends to be very friendly. Took me awhile to find the right FC but now I do, and it's nice! The only time I don't type is when I'm in a duty since I got to put my controller down.
It's also hard to be social with people when you have to put yourself busy to avoid RMTs.. >.>