Realization =O

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

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Pipin is gonna get Raubahn out of jail and Raubahn will become the DRK trainer...I mean he was pretty dark and grim and brooding...all very DRK-y if you ask me

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I only read the first page so I don't know if this has been said yet...

I can see Raubahn possibly become a Dark Knight. ....But first he needs to get a mechanical arm with a hidden cannon in it to replace the one he lost. And he needs one of them swanky Drk greatswords too of course. And then he can go kill Griffi- er.. Lolorito for killing his woman.

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Originally Posted by Nikkori

Once Raubahn lost it, and realized that he'd been played for a fool, Nanamo was his soft spot, and now that she's gone, and he's labeled a traitor, he's had time to think, I doubt he'll lose control again. And if you noticed, Kan-E-Senna and Merylwyb were both worried, but couldn't act. Looking around the other nations after 2.55, seems like no one is believing the lies, but the "mind my own business" mindset is still there. But, seeing their friend in trouble, i think that mindset won't last in the expansion.

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The thing is the other nation's leaders can believe what they want, but in a Republic system they don't matter, its the people. Regardless if they like him or not there will always be the question of "what if he snaps again."

Let's just say your current real world political leader snapped and killed someone in cold blood in a dinner gala and you heard about it. He was imprisoned for the crime but was sprung free from jail (either on bail or illegally). He then comes back to serve as your leader once more...would you want to elect him? You have to remember that not all the NPCs in this world are privy to all the information. Yes we speak to quite a few key NPCs who believe there is something wrong, but that is not the vast populace of Ul'dah (if it was then they wouldn't have a problem taking in more people as that place would be considered empty).

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

Let's just say your current real world political leader snapped and killed someone in cold blood in a dinner gala and you heard about it. He was imprisoned for the crime but was sprung free from jail (either on bail or illegally). He then comes back to serve as your leader once more...would you want to elect him? You have to remember that not all the NPCs in this world are privy to all the information. Yes we speak to quite a few key NPCs who believe there is something wrong, but that is not the vast populace of Ul'dah (if it was then they wouldn't have a problem taking in more people as that place would be considered empty).

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Have you ever heard of Andrew Jackson?

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Have you ever heard of Andrew Jackson?

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Well I have, but Raubahn murdered someone in cold blood in an area wherein drawing ones weapon is forbidden. Andrew Jackson (I am assuming you are speaking of the same Andrew Jackson who was the United States' 7th President) however, killed people who slandered his and his wife's name in duels, which was a completely different scenario.

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

Well I have, but Raubahn murdered someone in cold blood in an area wherein drawing ones weapon is forbidden. Andrew Jackson (I am assuming you are speaking of the same Andrew Jackson who was the United States' 7th President) however, killed people who slandered his and his wife's name in duels, which was a completely different scenario.

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It may not have been in cold blood, but we're still talking about a guy who was notorious for having a raging temper and proclivity for duels years and years before he was elected president. That duels were legal at the time doesn't change much. To me, anyway.

Oh course they don't mean much to you because you were not alive during when duels were considered a form of keeping honor intact, something that the modern culture does not have :P

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

Oh course they don't mean much to you because you were not alive during when duels were considered a form of keeping honor intact, something that the modern culture does not have :P

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Fair enough. Though, even modern society realizes that you don't speak ill of the dead. And it's certainly bad form to speak ill of the recently assassinated royalty. If this same scenario played out today in a modern monarchy, the guy who snapped would certainly be arrested and tried, but I don't doubt he would also have a good sized following. I wouldn't even be surprised if he got reduced sentencing.

On that note about possible dark knight trainers, put two and two together and maybe nero will build a new arm for raubahn that's imbued with dark powers. This won't happen but I'm just throwing it out there since those theories of raubahn and nero relate to DRK.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

I only read the first page so I don't know if this has been said yet...

I can see Raubahn possibly become a Dark Knight. ....But first he needs to get a mechanical arm with a hidden cannon in it to replace the one he lost. And he needs one of them swanky Drk greatswords too of course. And then he can go kill Griffi- er.. Lolorito for killing his woman.

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Maybe he will even go... Berserk? :D

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Originally Posted by Waffilicious

Maybe he will even go... Berserk? :D

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I'm thinking this is more realistic than him going DRK. I'm fine with either, I just think zerker would be more his style.

(complete with a fully functional arm courtesy of Garlond Ironworks)