Cash shop things

Reason #2347 why I'm against the cash shop: Because people stop suggesting ways to improve the game and cut down on grind, and start suggesting ways to improve the game and cut down on grind for those who want to pay extra cash.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

But.. but.. it's center... :D

Out of interest, was SE actually going to setup and run the Chinese division of ARR? I always imagined they would hire a company to sort of 'port' the game, with all that red tape. Red tape.. get it? lol Anyway, just curious if they were actually going to go in as their own representative or not. Also I want the (獅) Foo Dog Behemoth skin XD.

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I really don't know that much, all I know is that the game was launched in China (assumably) with a Chinese Datacentre, as per Chinese regulation.

What's possible is that a publisher in china is covering it.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Reason #2347 why I'm against the cash shop: Because people stop suggesting ways to improve the game and cut down on grind, and start suggesting ways to improve the game and cut down on grind for those who want to pay extra cash.

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If you haven't realised already that this is a troll-thread and that the topic was intended to bait people into arguing, then GG.

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Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

alot of people are already angry about the cash shop with what they got in there now..i figure if people are already angry...might as well just go all the way since they are gonna be angry either way it goes...you cant please everyone..and sometimes the better buisness decision is what matters...do you know how many people would willingly BUY passes for the relic? the grind is so unbearable that the casuals with money would gladly pay to bypass it just to have the best weapons for show. myself included

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As much as I don't like the idea in OP, this is really the only point that makes sense in this thread.

I have a feeling you know nothing at all, and you're just trying to justify a practice you know is completely without merit to the customer and damaging to long term retention player rate.

Maybe not now but once the new relic is introduced, I hope SE allows the current novus weapon to be purchasable either through in-game gil (ala Zenith weapon) or Mogstation. Afterall, it's just for glamour at that point in time.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

The money from subscriptions, expansion sales, game sales AND the cash-shop, ALL go towards the new Datacentres in Europe and Korea.

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What new data centres in Europe? Do you have any official source to back this up or is this just speculation as to where the money goes from CS?

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Originally Posted by KillyBamp

What new data centres in Europe? Do you have any official source to back this up or is this just speculation as to where the money goes from CS?

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Absolutley not speculation, this has been in talks for a long time, and a long long requested addition. But a VERY expensive one, that could cost a company a lot of money if it were wasted. Logistics had to be taken into account first.

Yes, I was there physically in person when Yoshi-P stood on stage at Tobacco Dock in London and announced that partially due to the cash-shops and additional services, they now have the finances and budgeting to open an EU Datacentre in the future.

However he said every adamantly, "NO PAY TO WIN" at the end, so we're safe enough that it's just going to be vanity.

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EU Data Centres

Based on latency-related feedback, Square Enix is in the planning stages of opening a dedicated European data centre. With content such as The Navel and The Binding Coil of Bahamut, which require fast reactions to avoid instant death, SE feels that the time has come to finally commit to true European servers. More information on this will be made available in the future.

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London Fan-Fest, November (2014) Tobacco Dock


All the slides from that event here; http://imgur.com/a/frEwz

http://i.imgur.com/XrG2v5I.png

http://i.imgur.com/YovcImq.png

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Originally Posted by Shioban

Overtime these Datacentres will pay off their investment through subscriptions, expansions sales AND the cash-shop.

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Over time, the datacentres would have payed off for themselves with just subscriptions. But your right that anything they can make money off of they will, they are allready testing the waters with what people are willing to shell out before they start to drop off.

If you think it's just vanity, you must have a seriously faulty definition of vanity.

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Originally Posted by Anatha

If you think it's just vanity, you must have a seriously faulty definition of vanity.

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I don't think so. Vanity items are those things that have no combat value. They are for appearance only. Minions, Level 1 clothing items for glamour, and a non-companion mount with no speed advantage have no combat value.