Vanity isn't just for the rich!

those mats are probably like...20k on the market wards. High dollar spending for sure.

Maybe the two OP examples are not the best, but in general - yes, vanity stuff is just insanely gated behind way too high level crafting (and/or gathering). When in all honesty, it should be something fun and at least partially easily available. But yes, there are no easily available counterparts. I understand the need to try to make crafting (and gathering) useful, but this just isn't the right way to do that.

And it's even more annoying when the vanity gear is seasonal - summer gear for the most part still being sold for ridiculous amounts of gil (seriously, would you pay 10 or more percent of a house (well the plot but you get the analogy) to get an item that's not good for anything but visuals? - and that's a medium sized plot, it's even more insane when compared to the price of a small), some of the coeurl set still doesn't even have a sale history on Shiva, meaning nobody's even got to the point where they'd put them up for sale there. It's mind-boggling.

And while at it: why does HQ version of such items even exist?? By that logic, we should be able to make HQ furniture too, for example...where it's nicely solved that it doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

If you are a 50 GSM who can easily craft 50* Rose Gold Ingots and Aetheryte Rings, and if you can easily obtain the Gold Ore via mining or buying, sure.

That's likely not easy for a large portion of the game's playerbase, I'd wager.

The point is, there should be easy, low-level craftable vanity-only gear to help offset the high-end elite stuff, period. And there isn't.

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most stupid and pointless thread which I've seen for today

are you serious op? ...

The Desynthesis system just feels very dumb to me. Why do you need demateria to make a tuxedo of all things? They're trying to force us to use a system that should have been long left in FFXI.

The rest of the item list looks reasonable, but yeah, it'll probably be a 4 star craft anyway ._.

Ýou can craft those with food and fc buff and you don't need to meld anything at all. They are really cheap

Also I disagree with some of you, I love the vanity system. I love that its expensive and hard to get the mats, cause that is what keeps me playing this game.

Hopefully they change the combat system so itd would be more fun and responsive, but for now vanity is the only thing I truly like and if it was easy to get id be done with a patch after a week

those materials are so easy and so cheap, Im not really sure what you are complaining about

Here is a Lexus RC:

http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam...lexus-rc-f.jpg

Here is a Nissan 370z:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnV...san-370Z-0.jpg

Guess which one cost $50,000 and which has a better peformance.

I think the first car is cute! I hope low level crafters can craft it

Heaven forbid they'd do it like Rift did it.....

Have an NPC Marriage merchant sell it for a reasonable price....

SE... making it 100x harder than it has to be because..... reasons... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

yes, vanity stuff is just insanely gated behind way too high level crafting (and/or gathering). When in all honesty, it should be something fun and at least partially easily available. But yes, there are no easily available counterparts. I understand the need to try to make crafting (and gathering) useful, but this just isn't the right way to do that.

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What would be the right way to make crafting and gathering useful then? Yoshi has already said they won't get anything on the level of tome or coil gear due to rmt fears so what should crafters get to craft that isn't vanity and will still be popular enough for them to make the investments they've made in leveling, gearing and melding profitable?