Congrats guys, you can no longer HQ Craft while waiting for the DF queue

Lol.
If you're que'd and yours pops, either pick which one you value more, the instance or whatever you're crafting, pretty simple. Can't possibly be something that valuable, only an idiot would craft a highly expensive item while que'd.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Someone explain to me how you can withdraw more than 3 times per 24h period if the lockout is the entire rest of the day?

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Here's a funny but really happened:

Player A> Hey, anyone wanna come to help my buddy here pass his coil T5? I'm tanking this.
Me> I do. Inv pls.
Player A> Thx. Anyone else?
... after awhile
Player A> k. gonna roll DF.
about several minutes later someone logged. DF confirmation pops.
Player B> anyone wanna do T5?
Player A> ah... our DF just popped. You wanna in?
Player B> Yes please. I'll WHM.
Player A> Got it.
rejoined new DF. just as commence window pops...
Player C> Sorry, just got back from afk-ing. You guys doing T5 right? Can I join?
Player A> Sure
invites the guy and resubmit DF again. This time DF pops almost instantly.
Player C> Oh shoot. I forgot to change job. Was gonna do this as BRD and I'm currently on SCH.
Player A> Aw man... U shud've changed before that. Can't u just go as SCH?
Player C> Can't. My SCH gears kinda gimped for T5.
Player A> .....
Me> lol

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Originally Posted by Hocchi

Lol.
If you're que'd and yours pops, either pick which one you value more, the instance or whatever you're crafting, pretty simple. Can't possibly be something that valuable, only an idiot would craft a highly expensive item while que'd.

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Define "idiot". :p

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/idiot

"a very stupid or foolish person"

Someone who doesn't expect to be called upon to enter an instance at any random time after they sign up for that exact thing fits the definition.

I love this change and major +1 for SE for finaly adding this feature.

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Originally Posted by RyuRoots

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/idiot

"a very stupid or foolish person"

Someone who doesn't expect to be called upon to enter an instance at any random time after they sign up for that exact thing fits the definition.

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If you're TLDR guy, maybe you should refrain posting. And read carefully on that link you referencing with. :p

I know what it says, which is why I linked it, though I imagine there's some inane reason you think you're clever. Besides which, point still stands that if you're not ready when your queue pops, too bad.

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Originally Posted by RyuRoots

I know what it says, which is why I linked it, though I imagine there's some inane reason you think you're clever.

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Please define 'clever'. :p

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Originally Posted by Zedd702

Actually I like this change. ST is a grand example for this... 24 players waiting to for the damned dungeon to queue, there's always ONE person who times out 2-3 times or ultimately withdraws from the DF altogether, while others have been queued for a long time.

One night it triggered 5-6 times after waiting 30+ minutes then had to wait 20 more minutes on it to trigger 2 more times then finally after a total of (iirc) 1 hr 06 minutes... If you are preoccupied with another task, don't clog DF and inconvenience others that have been patiently waiting.

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Trust me. I played frontlines before they implemented the "start frontlines even if one GC have missing players". And those you mentioned about ST is nothing compared to those.

However you have to understand that not all who withdrew are trolls. A lot are actually legit withdrawals.
Your justice system is punishing the innocent just because you have unreliable evidence that make them look guilty.

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Originally Posted by Zedd702

If you need that HQ item, ya better craft it or be sure you can complete it before DF triggers.

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Dude, as if I can control who or when the DF pops. And if I exactly know when the DF would pop, I would create a countdown timer and 2mins before the DF pops, I would stop anything that I would do and prepare my gearset so that I would just click commence when it pops. The DF trigger is not even controlled by RNG. It depends if there's one guy who decided to do the trial that I'm also planning to do.

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Originally Posted by Zedd702

Furthermore, it's not making you neglect RL at all. If you are not available, don't queue and hold everyone up. It's simple really.

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I'm not even talking about RL. I'm talking about trying to keep myself sane while waiting for DF.

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Originally Posted by Zedd702

It's actually more inconsiderate to queue up when there are others that also don't have much time to play are being inconvenienced by the hold up of people walking away when DF triggers multiple times, waiting to finish HQ items on everyone elses time that have been waiting, or organizing retainers etc...

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You think we have the luxury of time? You only have to wait a few more minutes for the trolls to dissipate. We've been waiting for hours just for the DF to pop.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Honestly, you have yourselves to thank for the change.

If people didn't withdraw constantly trying to spam in progress instances (or flat out troll), the restriction would have never been implemented.

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So you're saying it's our fault trying to keep ourselves sane while waiting for dutyfinder?

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Originally Posted by Shyluv

You aren't locked out for the entire day.

Lets say for some reason, you have to withdraw or you miss it 3 times in a row. Then you get say, a 30 min penalty. 30 mins later you re-queue, but your pizza is on fire and while you're putting the fire out, the queue pops and you miss it again. You have to wait 30 minutes again. You don't get the three strikes you're out. You only get one strike. Until reset happens. Then you get 3 strikes again.

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OK. I'm going to agree with this (and other similar posts).
The prelim patch notes are vague. But I'm going to call you out again if it turns out that the punishment is as harsh as I initially thought and you're wrong.