Now that Nexus is out... still a good idea to put piety on Blm Novus or no?

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Originally Posted by Numenor1379

Oh geeze this crap again. How many times do I have to tell you that I DO build SSPD? Because you always seem to say I don't. As far as using F2 in SCoB, again I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about with 250 Piety you can use F2 in addition to Flare off of a Convert.



We've already got stupid amounts of Accuracy on our gear, easily over 500 if you push the ACC stat. I rather doubt Final Coil will be higher than that. With regards to the spiritbonding argument... did you not see my statement above saying that was the only way to really get them on my server? Regarding the real world DPS loss, please actually give REAL NUMBERS. HOW MUCH does losing 8-10 DET (or CRIT or w/e dps stat) REALLY DO?

God dude... read for once. >_<

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You need to learn to read. How many of those accuracy pieces can be exchanged with a damage piece. Use the soldiery head, gloves and legs and neck if needs be. Plenty of other ways to drop accuracy and increase your damage.

If you ran spellspeed, you wouldn't be spamming the crappy rhetoric that bad players come out with saying "its just a theory".

You was talking about 250 piety you can use an additional F2. I asked what is the use of that in SCoB. There isn't any. So carry on facerolling filler content that can be done easily with an i90 weapon.

The difference between T5 accuracy and T6 is 16 acc (432 for T5, 448 for T6). T8/T9 469, or higher because you are hitting him from the front. Thats a 37 difference, which puts you over 500.

With regards to the spiritbonding argument; I was pointing out that you've already invested a load of time on other stages of your relic, why waste that in putting a POINTLESS stat in.

With regards to how much DPS you would lose with 8-10 det, it depends on what the rest of your stats are. I suggest using the Calculator in the other thread.

God dude, read for once. If you want to cheap out, at least put a meaningful stat on. You are the one posting unconfirmed speculation, everything contrary to your argument has been proven here and in other threads. So either put up some proof, or hush. I wont hold my breath though.

Harold, you aren't even worth talking to anymore. Either do the DPS test and show how utterly horrible my build is, so bad that only a scrub would do it, or just be quiet because you refuse to test anything that doesn't agree with optimal build theory.

Please tell me how a +44 SSPD/+23 DET/+8 PIE Novus isn't built for SSPD. Seems to me that is the top stat on it...

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Originally Posted by Numenor1379

Harold, you aren't even worth talking to anymore. Either do the DPS test and show how utterly horrible my build is, so bad that only a scrub would do it, or just be quiet because you refuse to test anything that doesn't agree with optimal build theory.

Please tell me how a +44 SSPD/+23 DET/+8 PIE Novus isn't built for SSPD. Seems to me that is the top stat on it...

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Please tell me the use for the Piety in ScOB. Please tell me what extra spells it will do.

Thunder 2 < Thunder 1, been proven by Puro. There isn't any use for F2 in ScoB. You are the one making claims that Piety is a DPS increase, against all evidence. The burden of proof is on you. If you can't prove it, then just say so.

I did not say it was a DPS increase in any post. I said it let you be more flexible in your rotation, was cheaper than a full DET build, let you use a F2 when hitting Convert instead of only a Flare and was a minimal DPS LOSS. Please go find statements of mine to the contrary. What I have argued is that the loss isn't worth getting bothered about unless you are a spreadsheet hero.

Also as another poster commented in a long ago thread, you are solely focused on SCoB whereas I am not. Stop applying your worldview onto statements that are encompassing more than your narrow focus.

In addition, you say I do not go for SSPD in virtually every post, yet you ignored my statement and question. How is my Novus build not a SSPD build? Where have I ever advocated anything other than a SSPD build?

Looks like my post was ignored :(

I'll just leave this here then: http://xivdb.com/?item/4734/Pineapple-Ponzecake

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Originally Posted by Numenor1379

I said it let you be more flexible in your rotation

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

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Gonna finish the quote or continue to pick and choose?

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Originally Posted by Numenor1379

Gonna finish the quote or continue to pick and choose?

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We can explain it to you but we can't comprehend it for you. But hey, I'm glad you're able to sacrifice a small amount of raw DPS to help with your inflexibility as a player.

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Originally Posted by Numenor1379

Which requires one to always have on hand. Far easier to not have to worry about it to begin with. Again, let's get some actual numbers to see what we are arguingover because frankly this is getting silly. 8 DET, 8 CRIT, 8 PIE.... Come on now, what does the real delta in DPS come to?

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Wait...people are gimping their novus so they don't need to carry around tea???

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Originally Posted by Numenor1379

I did not say it was a DPS increase in any post. I said it let you be more flexible in your rotation, was cheaper than a full DET build, let you use a F2 when hitting Convert instead of only a Flare and was a minimal DPS LOSS. Please go find statements of mine to the contrary. What I have argued is that the loss isn't worth getting bothered about unless you are a spreadsheet hero.

Also as another poster commented in a long ago thread, you are solely focused on SCoB whereas I am not. Stop applying your worldview onto statements that are encompassing more than your narrow focus.

In addition, you say I do not go for SSPD in virtually every post, yet you ignored my statement and question. How is my Novus build not a SSPD build? Where have I ever advocated anything other than a SSPD build?

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How on earth does it let you be more flexible with your rotation. If anything, T1+B1 is more flexible than T2 because if you get a quick mana tick, you go into Fire phase without B1, if you get a slow tick, you do a B1 (or a scathe if you need to move).

T2 is less DPS, less flexible with movement (due to the longer cast), and less flexible with mana ticks.

Now, what excuse do you want to come up with now so I can disprove that. You've ignored all the facts and evidence in this thread, and used tired cliches about how theorycrafting doesn't translate to real world dps, yet it always does. If anyone is being narrow here, its you.