Good Solution To End Game Raid Issues

I agree with adding a "test" to the game. They already have some, during class quests that usually require you to do a certain thing to win correctly. So why not build on this?

In my opinion, after you have reached 50 you should be required to pass a "max level" or I guess "raid" test, which requires a certain DPS level (meaning you need to form a decent rotation) while dealing with avoiding an assortment of mechanics. If they are not going to allow people to see how much DPS they are doing so they can form proper rotations on their own, then they should do something like this.

I love these threads. As players you want to level up at super speeds and hit End Game before the game even hits one year old. The sheer ease of the game promotes this behavior. Why learn when you an essentially just button mash 90% of the game. This is the game you want, this is the game you've been given, and its going to produce a majority of just button mashers. You made your bed, lay in it.

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Originally Posted by Sonofbaldo

I love these threads. As players you want to level up at super speeds and hit End Game before the game even hits one year old. The sheer ease of the game promotes this behavior. Why learn when you an essentially just button mash 90% of the game. This is the game you want, this is the game you've been given, and its going to produce a majority of just button mashers. You made your bed, lay in it.

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Or add a solution to help players learn the jobs they play. Would probably be a more helpful and logical choice.

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Originally Posted by Woggers

There is no solo test right now, but HM and EX primals are good skill tests for endgame. If you can't get past these due to dying constantly to the same mechanics and can't past it without a carry, you're not gonna do very well at the endgame raids.

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Dodging AOE is a huge issue for a lot of players and I am one of them, but at no fault to my own. 49 times out of 50 I am not standing in the highlighted AOE but I will get hit by the AOE 50% of the time never the less. This is a known bug that has been going on since 1.0 that Square needs to address. It makes raiding impossible for players bugged by the AOE.

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Originally Posted by Denrok

Dodging AOE is a huge issue for a lot of players and I am one of them, but at no fault to my own. 49 times out of 50 I am not standing in the highlighted AOE but I will get hit by the AOE 50% of the time never the less. This is a known bug that has been going on since 1.0 that Square needs to address. It makes raiding impossible for players bugged by the AOE.

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What you have there is either poor latency or a poor understanding of how AoEs work in this game. Either way, it's not a bug that plagues a few special snowflakes.
If you move out of a telegraph after it has disappeared, you are already caught in it. You have to move out of the telegraph before it disappears. With bad latency, there is a shorter time window for you to make said movements.

You know how some spells normally cancel if you move while casting them right? (e.g. Stone, Fire...etc.)
If you move when they are almost finished casting, they go through instead of cancelling.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

What you have there is either poor latency or a poor understanding of how AoEs work in this game. Either way, it's not a bug that plagues a few special snowflakes.
If you move out of a telegraph after it has disappeared, you are already caught in it. You have to move out of the telegraph before it disappears. With bad latency, there is a shorter time window for you to make said movements.

You know how some spells normally cancel if you move while casting them right? (e.g. Stone, Fire...etc.)
If you move when they are almost finished casting, they go through instead of cancelling.

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Yes I know about the delay when canceling a spell cast and having the cast still go through. This is the same delay that slams people on the AOE. It is highly frustrating.

Real solution #9: Hardcores stop selling carries to casuals.

I'm not sure if its been said (due to laziness), but if I'm not mistaken there is already something to prepare players. i think its called lvl 1-49. Don't quote me on that though.

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Originally Posted by Makado

Or add a solution to help players learn the jobs they play. Would probably be a more helpful and logical choice.

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The solution is to add a test. We were tested in the earlier stages of leveling a class (i.e 1-30) though those were pretty light in some respects with notable quests going to one of the GLD quests where you had to keep aggro off an npc who can die very easily.

I agree with the OP but would take it a step further by adding a quest line, relevant to the lore that forces you into a solo instance which requires you to know your class or else you fail (i.e healers need to keep npcs alive, tanks need to keep aggro off npcs, dps need to kill boss in a time limit, etc) and is a prerequisite to unlocking the raid content. SE if you are reading this, doing fates or fetch quests to unlock raids is not a good prerequisite. By using the solo instance test as a prerequisite test to get into the raid it stop people from selling carries since they can't enter the dungeon and filters out those who want to raid to those who don't.

An example of this would be like finding parts that drop from and A rank mark (that drop at a reasonable rate 30-50%) that needs to be crafted into keys (can be crafted by any lvl 50) that are required to unlock the solo instance that will in turn give you access to the Third Coil of Bahamut raid.

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Originally Posted by Fendred

Problem: People who simply cannot meet fundamental skill challenges necessary to progressing in raids...

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I would like to mention, there are many cool and experienced raiders who
only perform cool in their static, and they will act like a noob when pug a random dungeon.

Just want to say, to become a cool raider, doesn't mean you have to master your "fundamental skill", very often, it just means your raid is cool.