Average item level calculation needs fixing, as does lv50 gear progression

There are so many easy ways to get Myth, why force yourself to do it in a way that you're not mentally prepared for?

since we can repair in dungeon now, I suggest just lock everyone's gear in all contents. ^^;
It would be a real quick implementable resolution for this issue.
So everyone still can equip anything they like, but they cannot change their gear in the content so their iLV is locked.

you get AF then right to the lv90 myth gear. within a week should be ilvl90.

Not killing Titan HM without i70? Welcome to the 1st months of the game were Darklight was the 1st Real Set you could get and most people did Titan with only 1-2 pieces of DL gear....

I have completed Titan HM before 2.3 when joined started and had a dik like OP telling everyone that they are undergeared noobs, then leaving together with another of his kind. after building up 15% echo we, including "undergeared noobs", killed him with 6 people party.
I have repeatedly said it before that there are many occasions when ilvl 90 fools perform much worse than any ilvl 60 player that is capable of learning and adapting (and keeping his mouth shut during the fight unless he has some advice for others).

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Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

They should not be able to enter the queue for Expert, HM Primals or CT until they have at least i70 in every slot.

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For the HM Primals, did you ever stop to think about the fact that you were dealing with new people who were going through the quests for their first Relic weapon? It's a quest you get, you know, right after you beat the Main Scenario. Are you saying you want the Relic Reborn quest gated behind an arbitrary i70 "in every slot" requirement? Also, the ilvl requirement for the hardest fight in that 3 HM Primals chain (for Relic Reborn) is 57, if you haven't noticed.

I did HM Primals for my Relic weapons at a gradually-increasing ilvl pace, but I got lucky in Amdapor Keep and got an i55 pants and i55 sword on my first run. Still, I think I was only i58 when I did HM Titan.

So, to put it simply, you have no idea what you're talking about and are just complaining about newbies because you want to speed run everything and they're just "holding you back." If you can't handle helping new players get through encounters that they're geared for (just, I don't know, maybe actually NEW at), then kick yourself out of the encounter, wait your 30 minutes, and requeue.

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Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

A tank can't have the HP to survive Titan's Mountain Buster + Bombs exploding near them while they are decked out in AF armour and some pre-lv 50 rings. Even with my own tank's gear (i93) I tend to have trouble if the bombs spawn in a weird pattern so that two are on top of me. Which I've noticed is happening more often than it used to .

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I'm sorry, this just makes it sound like you're the problem. I main tanked Titan HM in AF gear (minus the pants) at least once, and in just Militia gear many times. Sometimes the fights were tough, but it just took a little more coordination and timing, then the fight went smoothly.

Sorry for the double post, decided not to edit my above post yet again just to add more:

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Originally Posted by melflomil

I can't see anyone doing mass pulls anytime soon.

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Oh, so you mean people are having to run the dungeons as intended instead of speed running? Shocker!

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Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

A tank can't have the HP to survive Titan's Mountain Buster + Bombs exploding near them while they are decked out in AF armour and some pre-lv 50 rings. Even with my own tank's gear (i93) I tend to have trouble if the bombs spawn in a weird pattern so that two are on top of me. Which I've noticed is happening more often than it used to .

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you do realize there is always a safe spot for bombs in titan hm right ? so the only things you need to mitigate are rock buster followed by mountain buster, inner beast/pop cooldown after landslide => problem solved, you can even precast stoneskin as paladin and use flash as additional cooldown as well

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Originally Posted by Geobryn

you do realize there is always a safe spot for bombs in titan hm right ? so the only things you need to mitigate are rock buster followed by mountain buster, inner beast/pop cooldown after landslide => problem solved, you can even precast stoneskin as paladin and use flash as additional cooldown as well

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Yeah, how about you just stop eating those bombs (and start stoneskining yourself if PLD). :)

It's funny you post about "doing the content so many times I know how it works" and then about eating 2 bombs as the tank.

When we originally ran Titan hard for relics, we asked all party members to have 3k HP and 5k HP for tanks. That meant AK gear (item level 55) combined with a couple of darklight pieces. And it was more than enough without the echo.

Realised another thing, now we even have i95 weapons that are essentially i75 weapons if they're not hq. Between that and equipping i90 accessories without your prime stat pumps up a person's ilvl way beyond what that player would be capable of.

So right now a player could have a weapon that's 20 levels above its actual performance.
Left side i90 pieces if nq are 1 prime stat above i80s.
And right side as high as 110 that may be contributing nothing at all.

It's about time for SE to revisit their previous statement that there's no plans to change how average ilvl is calculated.