So, now Monk/Dragoon have to compete with yet another class?

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

Hmm although the tooltip of DEX says ranged damage, whats not to say the tooltip on NIN skills will say "potency based on DEX" or something like that? Anything and everything is ofc speculation xD

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do you know what dexterity means? it's hand and eye coordination. It would help you increase parry/block rate (which it does in game) and accuracy too probably (it doesn't in-game)
ppl are thinking dex increase your damage, by easier striking vital points, to deal more damage, but in that case accuracy would decide crit rate also. So maybe Ninja skill potency, could be based on accuracy then? -.-
or since they removed elemental wheel for simplicity sake, they could just base Ninja off Str, like all other melee-wep-jobs...cause you know...the more force you put into a stab/slash, the more damage you can inflict.
try to pierce a rock, with dexterity, and see how that compares to using str.
realistically speaking, bow damage would be unaffected by dex. but if you made a powerful bow, you'd need str, to pull it fully. but then all physical jobs would compete over same gear, which would suck, unless you made all gear, job specific...then there would be 10+ gear sets dropping from coil, and that would be annoying to everyone.
Dex based ranged dps, is just an old stupid cliche.

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Originally Posted by neonexsis

don't think they have the same main stats I am Alost 99% sure they will be dex stats.

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Did noone think of the Possibility of SE adding AGI back into the Game? Which could fit for Rogue and Ninja, without messing with the other Stats.

Nin will use dex /endthread

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Originally Posted by neizero

Nin will use dex /endthread

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Based on what exactly?

Not sure why folks are wailing about sharing drops with RGE/NIN. It's all but written in the stars that Musketeer will be coming eventually, and that will almost certainly be a ranged DEX class competing for drops against ARC/BRD. If SE decides to bend the rules to the point of breaking to force RGE/NIN to use DEX instead of STR for its moves, that just means that MSK and ARC are going to have to share with RGE instead of PGL and LNC sharing with RGE. Someone's gonna have to share. :P

Regardless, I find the idea of a melee job using DEX as their main stat to be highly unliikely. SE took great pains in simplifying the stat system for FFXIV. In FFXI, the stats had all kinds of crazy hidden effects that were rarely explained in-game; you pretty much had to be a FFXI guru to know, for example, that VIT boosted the potency of Cure spells (not as much as MND or Healling Skill, but still there). In FFXIV, every stat has a very small pool of effects, and those effects are clearly printed on the tooltip for that stat.

For SE to turn around and make RGE/NIN a DEX job would throw that simplicity out the window.

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Originally Posted by Nero

Did noone think of the Possibility of SE adding AGI back into the Game? Which could fit for Rogue and Ninja, without messing with the other Stats.

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Agility is a synonym for Dexterity. They both mean the same thing. Unless you are meaning something non-standard for AGI it would be kind of repetitive and pointless to add it in.

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Originally Posted by Kerberon

Agility is a synonym for Dexterity. They both mean the same thing. Unless you are meaning something non-standard for AGI it would be kind of repetitive and pointless to add it in.

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You did not play XI or early XIV, didnt you? Both had Dex AND Agi. 2 Different things in the universe of FF.

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Originally Posted by Nero

You did not play XI or early XIV, didnt you? Both had Dex AND Agi. 2 Different things in the universe of FF.

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I regret not playing XI, and waited on XIV till recently after the bad launch XIV had with 1.0. Still doesn't make having them logical, they're the same thing. I wonder if the past history of it is some type of translation issue.

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Originally Posted by neizero

Nin will use dex /endthread

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They will use STR, Dex only boosts ranged attacks, althought they might change it so that Nin would use Dex too, it would make Fuma gear unavailable to Nin which would be stupid, and MNK gear looks closer to what a Nin would wear so it will be the same gears as monks ( Gunner would then use the same as BRD if they are released )

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Originally Posted by Kerberon

Still doesn't make having them logical, they're the same thing.

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In FFXI canon they're not the same thing, that's the issue. Agility is to Vitality what Dexterity is to Strength. The former two stats bolster Evasion/Defense whereas the latter two buff Ranged Damage/Melee Damage respectively.