I do NOT want fights to be nerfed. I just want mechanics to work reliably.

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Originally Posted by Sigred

tl;dr--Conflag icon bug can occur, but it is rare.

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I agree that it's rare. Of all the times I've done Twintania (we were able to master conflag phase pretty quickly), I've only seen it happen a handful of times... and there's only been one instance where *no one* saw the icon appear at all, never, at any point... not even late.

The thing that confuses me is I've never seen this glitch occur with any other icon in the fight, whether it be divebombs or orbs.

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Originally Posted by WellFooled

Have to confess, Garuda's disappearing act has really gotten me down. I would love to tackle the extreme mode primals, but as a tank I feel gimp when I can't see Garuda half the time. I would rather not put my parties through that and I can't unlock the other Primals without first beating her.

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Don't let it get you down too much. I don't know if there is any specific factor that makes you more or less susceptible to this issue, but I've only PERSONALLY witnessed it a few times in all my many runs of doing Garuda hard and extreme.

Half the stuff you are talking about is in fact latency/lag. If another player appears to you to be out of aoe/safe from whatever but they still get hit it is a lag/latency issue. I have never seen titan EM drop an ability like landslide out of his rotation. What you might be referring to is how some phases get shortened/lengthened causing confusion as a result of dps differences between groups you are running it in. I've never seen markers not show up conflags. Sometimes it looks like they didn't show up on a distant player due to all the special effects that are going (you could try turning off other player effects).

The garuda not appearing is definitely an issue and seems to happen most often for ps3 players.

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Originally Posted by ruskie

I've certainly had landslide push me off while I was clearly not in it but was very very close to it... so the ability certainly has a bit wider area than the graphics - so I quickly learned to be a few steps away not "just out of it".

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The fact that you have to work around it is terrible. :(

Also people still do the "I didnt happen to me, therefore it doesn't exist" thing?

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Originally Posted by KoujiMoreno

Also people still do the "I didnt happen to me, therefore it doesn't exist" thing?

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Apparently. This is why I point out that this is not latency/lag related -- just things not working correctly. I am usually not affected by these issues, but I know they still happen. There are workarounds for most of them... or at least the fight is still doable even if someone is affected by a bug once in a blue moon. The most annoying, for me, is the Garuda spiny thing. I can't tell you how often I see that happen to someone... and if they can dodge everything in Titan Ex like a pro, there is no reason they can't get in the spiny bubble in time. If your OT gets the spiny sort of low before Garuda jumps, you have several seconds to stand in the bubble before she even reappears and starts casting her AoE.

If you see someone 'inside' the bubble ahead of time, that means the server ALSO knows they are inside something ahead of time. It's the server that notifies you of other characters' positions, so if it is showing someone in the bubble way ahead of when the cast finishes and they STILL take unmitigated damage, it's a bug... not latency. The only time I will agree that latency is the culprit is if the person runs in RIGHT as the cast goes off. That's a little iffy.

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Originally Posted by MomoOG

I have never seen titan EM drop an ability like landslide out of his rotation.

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He doesn't throw it out of rotation. Either the timing of bombs/landslide is off, or he skips landslide completely. He'll never *add* moves, just remove them... and I've ONLY seen him 'remove' landslide. It's a rare bug, and out of weeks of farming... I can probably say I've only seen it happen three times. I've heard others complain about the same issue, though.

I can confirm from own experience that the conflag bug is lag. It just happens that when it appears you have a bad ping to the server and on your machine it only shows when he's finished casting it.


As for the missing landslides in Titan, usually it's because the person targeted is gone or dead. Landslide actually works by targeting one of your party members, so if it actually happens when everyone is alive then perhaps titan has some line of sight issue.. which is amazing! I want to dodge landslides that way >_>

As most have said, the genuine bug which I've encountered myself as a healer is the garuda disappearing bug. Happens so many times on garuda HM for me, like 4-5 times in total.

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

Don't let it get you down too much. I don't know if there is any specific factor that makes you more or less susceptible to this issue, but I've only PERSONALLY witnessed it a few times in all my many runs of doing Garuda hard and extreme.

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Sad to say, its happened to me at least once every time I've gone in, which is maybe a dozen different parties now. Sometimes it seems to clear up after the first attempt, other times its a constant feature of the fight. My plan now is to gear my alt class, a dragoon, up enough to try and take her on. Maybe it'll have less of an impact if I'm on a damage dealer.

MomoOG may be right that it happens most often to PS3 players, as that's what I'm currently gaming on.