I am no dps expert, but I though it is common knowledge that after the latest patch, monk and dragoon are the top dps, while bard are the weakest ones since they have support abilities and constant damage. Of course it depends on a fight but that is the situation generally. It makes sense since melee does not have the advantages of ranged dps. Just look at the abilities and buffed GL and it should be obvious. If xEscaflownex could share some actual data it would be nice.
Can we please stop giving melee bad stigma?
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02-02-2014, 12:51 AMSamsta
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02-02-2014, 01:33 AMxEscaflownexLol, when did I ever say I save my DPS cooldown, I simply said they are general up, IE, coming OFF CD about the time Im singing songs, and yes, yes I do, all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riichi
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02-02-2014, 01:39 AMxEscaflownex
You guys want Advanced Combat Tracker or FFXIV App?
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02-02-2014, 02:12 AMNoctisUmbraACT. I prefer accuracy. Besides, I'm sure you'll want to use the parser that actually counts Flaming Arrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by xEscaflownex
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02-02-2014, 06:25 AMArtemizI can't help but think your parser results are screwed up in some way, not taking damage into account or something because my experience is the exact opposite of yours, I don't parse in FF14 but even so the results of patch 2.1 where obvious to me. Before 2.1 I would have agreed with you, for just about any mob I could easily out damage melee but not now. If melee don't have to play the hokey cokey then I'll struggle to out DPS them unless I out gear them by quite a bit. As a BLM I'm king of AoE, I'm happy with that and in terms of damage potential I think it's about right as it is, melee are the ST specialists and they're good at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by xEscaflownex
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02-02-2014, 06:50 AMNoctisUmbraIt wasn't really any different in 2.0. A competent MNK could still far exceed any ranged in single target. Only difference then was DRG wasn't as good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemiz
As far as DPS ceilings go, BRD had the lowest and still remains the lowest. The high mobility of the job, however, lends to them being able to perform more consistently and reliably in content. Where content that requires a lot of movement, like extreme primals, can seriously inhibit the performance of a BLM, a BRD will barely be affected. -
02-02-2014, 09:29 AMjarswhat have you never done turn 2 or something? you sit there and attack the boss and melee always winsQuote:
Originally Posted by xEscaflownex
brds beating ANYONE in damage shouldn't happen, they are the lowest dps job -
02-02-2014, 09:43 AMNoctisUmbraWell, that depends on the given content. While in pretty much any case, they shouldn't be beating a DRG or a MNK, but they can often times beat BLMs or SMNs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jars
The thing about BRD is, yes they do have the lowest DPS ceiling, but they are also the least hindered by content mechanics. BRD is able to perform at near-full optimal capacity more than any job. That's why it makes sense that they were given the lowest DPS cap.
On the flipside, melee have the greatest risk associated with them and therefore they have the highest DPS cap.
BLM are kings of AoE destruction. On the flipside they have poor mobility and average single target DPS.
SMN are flexible and provide great support, but most of their potential lies in the ability to multi-DoT. -
02-02-2014, 09:55 AMHysterior
The only time i have seen no melee is for ifrit x. And due to fight mechanics, as a healer i understand why....
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02-02-2014, 09:58 AMNoctisUmbraReally? I'd think Garuda X more than Ifrit X. Titan X and Ifrit X are quite fine with melee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysterior
That being said, when it comes to PF/DF, I concede that it can be difficult to trust random players you don't know to have the competence to dodge mechanics well on melee...