This isn't an MMO

Maybe Yoshida can bring back the 12 player party and call it extreme party?
Light Party (4) -> Full Party (8) -> Extreme Party (12)

Example:
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...709df00966.jpg

Then put in open world content, where you need an extreme party (need first to speak to a NPC who check that you are in a party) and the reward (extreme gears) get only the party who hit the monster first. And the event pop up once a week at random times.

The problem with the 12 player party in old 1.0 was that there was no content where you needed 12 players. Even during a leve with the highest difficulty 12 players were too many. The enemy was dead before half of the party reached it. Combined with the old exp system (where you only get exp if you did dmg) 6 or more players got no exp from the enemy.

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Originally Posted by Doo

Pretty damm fun having barrage, sidewinder, weapon skills, skillchains, job abilities, 2hrs, etc to play with. So many fun skills compare to blandness of poison arrow, heavy shot, light shot, etc. TP system didn't allow for zerging and a delicate hate system means you have to know when to hold back and when to go for it. Much much more complex than rotations and phases. But hey it's just difference in taste. [...]
A battle system that makes players have to study rotations pftt. Probably like 90 percent of the player base has to research rotations.

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Not every job in FFXI had fun abilties to play with and because you had many weaponskills didn't mean you were using all of them. You had one that was good most of the time and waited to reach a certain skillevel till you get your bread and butter ws ignoring the silly ones on the way. And what do you mean with delicate hate system? Its practically the same in this game.

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Originally Posted by Grailer

Unless you are doing FATES , this isn't an MMO .

Battlefield 3/4 on PC had 64 players in a server .

This has 24 max and mostly its 4-8 players .

How is this an MMO ?

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I actually will have to agree with you on this. This game does not feel like a MMO. A MMO has bigger zones for exploring, rare mobs that drop rare/ex items and gear. Open world dungeons with treasure chests to open or pick their lock. Everyone usually owns a home, Quest that give out worthwhile items not lame minons that do nothing but follow you around. Crafting seems useless for money making and I am feeling bored because I'm tired of doing only CT and the same story mission over and over again.

By your logic alot of MMOs out today aren't MMOs. To each his own I guess..

Well, to be fair....Planet Side 2 is a true MMOFPS and that game gets boring after 20 minutes of playing "zerg rush the objective".

Truly open world MMO's kinda suck. The lack of balance makes it just meh.

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Originally Posted by Codek

Well, to be fair....Planet Side 2 is a true MMOFPS and that game gets boring after 20 minutes of playing "zerg rush the objective".

Truly open world MMO's kinda suck. The lack of balance makes it just .

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Play sniper and sit on a tower sniping people upto 3km away, it's rather amusing.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I miss having more than 24 people attack a boss in an open world and actually have fun. With the boss not relying on one-hit kill mechanics to be difficult.

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All your posts are about not having fun, hating mechanics of the game and requests for changes of things you don't like. I could not imagine what few options one would have in order to spend their free time on something they dislike so much...

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Originally Posted by Miiu

Not every job in FFXI had fun abilties to play with and because you had many weaponskills didn't mean you were using all of them. You had one that was good most of the time and waited to reach a certain skillevel till you get your bread and butter ws ignoring the silly ones on the way. And what do you mean with delicate hate system? Its practically the same in this game.

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Can't comment on every single job but

Sam - Penta thrust , sidewinder, meditate, impulse drive, third eye, 2hr , Tachi Gekko, Tachi Kasha, etc
War - Dual wield, Steel cyclone, great axe, decimation, berserk, etc
Nin - Utsumi ichi, ni, 2hr blowing up, Blade Ku, casting ninjitsu, etc
Drk- Blood weapon, Soul eater, cross reaper, guillotine, etc
thf- Viper bite, dancing edge, Sneak attack, trick attack, etc


You use most of them when you're leveling and depending on party setup, a low weapon skill might be better for skillchaining magic burst damage. Hate in this game you flash a couple of times and you're good. Only time it's tricky is when adds spawn.

(all pre abyssea)

Ffxiv feels like an mmo full of
People that do not want to interact with each other.

OP needs to play a MMO ASAP!