Will SUMMONER always share gear with BLM

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Originally Posted by Volsung

I think this stems from the fact that our stats are very basic in what does what, and we only have vertical progression.

If there was more horizontal progression and extra types of stats we might see stuff like:

"firestarter proc up" or "enhanced ifrit egi" on gear. which I think would add a lot of flavor
to the game.

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That's all well and good until these gear pieces come out and then the min/maxers get a hold of the info, and then after about 6 hours the gear set BiS lists come out and then it turns into a system like in FFXI where if you don't have a specific piece you might as well just turn the game off and stop playing altogether because obviously you have no idea what you're doing.

I like that there are different gearing options at the same ilevel with not much variance between the stats other than secondary stats because really, if I have a Hero's Ring of Casting, an Allagan Ring of Casting and a Vortex Ring of Casting, I don't think my choices will be judged as harshly than if I didn't have some special ability + ring that will make or break an entire new rotation.

On topic, I play SMN and my boyfriend plays BLM so we're always competing for drops. It's ok, I've gotten used to it personally. I think the myth AF is completely appropriate and accessible for job-specific gear, and the rest can be shared.

I personally see it as more of a good thing than bad thing. I'm sure if this happened to each class, people would be bitching out the ass about how bad RNG is treating them. Well DUH, when you add other options to the pool it becomes less likely for you to get your loot. And for what, because you want to be a special snowflake? They're both casters, logically they should need the same stats. Just like both tanks should need similar stats.

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Originally Posted by CruxisSeptentrion

That's all well and good until these gear pieces come out and then the min/maxers get a hold of the info, and then after about 6 hours the gear set BiS lists come out and then it turns into a system like in FFXI where if you don't have a specific piece you might as well just turn the game off and stop playing altogether because obviously you have no idea what you're doing...

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Thats actually how it is right now, secondary stats mean piddle. You're always shooting for what has the most int basically

I should probably elaborate before something is read into it that shouldnt be. Min Maxing is already done. You'll be best going
with what offers you the highest base stat.

You don't realise it but you're also advocating what I am, horizontal progression of gear. You literally are saying is good what I
am saying is good lol. Something might not have as much int as another piece but can offer something else useful

You just said you like options of three earrings..... if theyre all close enough, thats horizontal. but trust me, even with the choices
of those three earrings, they can be min maxed

The big issue is... thats boring as all hell when secondary stats mean so little and dont impact gameplay in any meaningful way.
Crit rate for raging strikes fester is about the only cool thing, and even crit rate doesnt change thigns that drastically.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Horizontal gear isn't any more fun. Stats are not "fun", at least not independently. The loot itself, its looks, and then whether its in any way useful or not is what matters. I'm not really sure how "enhances <blah> effect" is more "fun" than "crit rate + X".
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If it doesnt matter to you one way or the other.... why argue against it, other than to play devil's advocate?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Horizontal gear isn't any more fun. Stats are not "fun", at least not independently. The loot itself, its looks, and then whether its in any way useful or not is what matters. I'm not really sure how "enhances <blah> effect" is more "fun" than "crit rate + X".

Also, there are multiple sets now at seveal tiers, so it's not like there are not any horizontal options to choose from.

e.g. i love the look of the armor of light and I had fun getting it. That matters to me way more than the stats.

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Wrong. Horizontal gear is waaaay better. It's what kept XI fun for 7+ years until abyssea came in and destroyed all that endgame content in a single patch.