Is Bow's Weapon Damage getting fixed?

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Originally Posted by Naryoril

well, i don't have a bard, so i can't try it out. Is there a party with 4 bards and with ifrit weapons (or less) and partial darklight equipment who was able to do it? Because that's the gear the fight is balanced to. Honestly i really doubt it, but i'd be interesting to see a video of it.

I think this is an extreme case where it's fine when it doesn't work with any party setup.

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4 BRD may struggle on Ifrit, but not nearly as much as 4 MNK or 4 DRG on Titan.....BRD can spread out and avoid stacked plumes...

Easiest wins I've had in Titan were with 4 BRD or 4 BLM

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Originally Posted by Akirakogami

Bard support abilities are not op. Songs are only helpful for people who mismanage their resources.

Our silence is usefull only because of a few particular mechanics. We have no stun, low dps, low burst, poor aoe, no limit break. We're getting nerfed anyways because troll Dragoons whined enough to get their way.

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Have you defeated Titan or better with every job?

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Originally Posted by Celebcarca

4 BRD may struggle on Ifrit, but not nearly as much as 4 MNK or 4 DRG on Titan.....BRD can spread out and avoid stacked plumes...

Easiest wins I've had in Titan were with 4 BRD or 4 BLM

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It's not hard with all melee dps. As plumes are predictable, you have them all stand in one spot and then move.

I still believe you only hear complaints about Bards due to their silence being almost mandatory for certain fights. It's a lot easier for a DD to handle silences than your tanks, and there's only one viable option for that.

Of course, I personally think every class should have an interrupt.

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Originally Posted by Celebcarca

4 BRD may struggle on Ifrit, but not nearly as much as 4 MNK or 4 DRG on Titan.....BRD can spread out and avoid stacked plumes...

Easiest wins I've had in Titan were with 4 BRD or 4 BLM

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Wait, what? There should be no problem with 4 MNK or 4 DRG on Titan. One of the smoothest kills I've had 3 MNKS and 1 DRG (and a BRD as well).

There is like no mechanic I can think of that favors range on that. Plumes? It hits everyone and a lot of people stack or form a line for it anyway, so everyone is equally affected. Even if you just wing it, melee should be fine.
You just ran into bad melee. There is no reason range is better.

4 BRD on Ifrit with appropriate gear though. I'm going to call that impossible until I see otherwise. That's not a struggle, that's just a ridiculous demand. Each bard has to kill a nail each in AF1 gear? No LB at all?
How could you even compare that to an all melee titan?

Since this is a BRD thread I may as well ask it. Is 2 determination better than 1 dex? Basically toxotes choker vs DL neck. I don't really need the accuracy from DL neck right now though.

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Originally Posted by Razgard

Since this is a BRD thread I may as well ask it. Is 2 determination better than 1 dex? Basically toxotes choker vs DL neck. I don't really need the accuracy from DL neck right now though.

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No.

A while back I read this article. http://gamegeex.blogomancer.com/post...ard-patch-2-0/
It equates 6-7 det to 1 dex.

Also, have you considered http://xivdb.com/?item/4381/Imperial-Operative-Choker
It's not that expensive and when melded with +7 Vit is a lot better IMO.

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Originally Posted by Bardo

Thing is, EVERY other class relic+1 is 46 damage. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

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Caster +1 relics are actually 69. Not 46. It just reinforces your point I suppose, but you should at least be correct with your broad generalizations.

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Originally Posted by Dyssyd

Caster +1 relics are actually 69. Not 46. It just reinforces your point I suppose, but you should at least be correct with your broad generalizations.

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Caster weapons have a hidden physical damage stat, much like physical weapons have a hidden magic damage stat. Garuda weapon for BLM has the same physical damage as Artemis+1, and their level 34 Toothed Goathorn Staff is a match for the magic damage.

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Originally Posted by Dyssyd

Caster +1 relics are actually 69. Not 46. It just reinforces your point I suppose, but you should at least be correct with your broad generalizations.

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It was just a semantics issue. Fixed it for you. Physical damage.
Mages magic damage on their weapons is obviously higher because they don't auto attack. (they can, but the damage is pitiful)