Samurai!?

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Originally Posted by Exstal

as WoW has shown, melee healers are garbage.

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There was never a "melee" healer in wow unless you count monk somehow and they are awesome.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

For the record, all tanks are mitigation tanks.

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So WAR as it is right now does mitigate damage in which way? Foresight, which is so awesome i guess?

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Originally Posted by thealphafirm

Uhhhh, you can say that about the the tanking classes/jobs available now. People who like tanking will tank, people who don't like it will roll something else. Why not give them more options? Your argument is silly.

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Your reading comprehension is silly. Since you simply restated what I said. I have no problem with adding options for tanks. What I will say is that when I quoted Exstal I should have included post 6, 9, and 10 as reference.

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Originally Posted by Volux

Actually, I for one do not play either War or Paladin, and am waiting for the next tank class before I level a tank. I am hoping it is Samurai as it makes more sense with the heavy looking samurai armor and could have some really cool abilites like the FFT samurai. Ninja with it's lightweight cloth and stealthy lore makes more sense as DPS. I would play both, leaning more toward the tank because I already have a DPS class. So you are wrong, adding Sam as a tank will add at least one more tank to the pool, and I'm sure there are other would be tanks that just don't really vibe with Pally or War but would get down with Samurai.

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This is true. Maybe I should have said that it may not increase it as much as people would think.

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Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont

So WAR as it is right now does mitigate damage in which way? Foresight, which is so awesome i guess?

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It is reactive mitigation in the form of a self heal. It is only effective if you can survive the hit.

I like to beg to differ on the changing of the base class suit the role of a job. The lancer wouldn't need changes the soul crystals would add a system of top of the existing moves similar to warrior with wrath and a stance. The class already has a parry buff so building off parry and maybe a counter attack system could change the whole playstyle but never need to change lancer as a whole. Now the skill would be piercing and your auto attack would be slashing i suppose which won't really matter. So I guess the only issue would be what to do with the crystal to weapon equip. Sam would need to be able to equip at least one spear or change the system to force a crystal equip on weapon change. All small problems. I think the big issue would be to make the system interesting and balanced with pld and war would be the issue more so then making a dps interesting.

Archer/Bard is great but we need true ranged dps that uses both gun/crossbow/bow just like in FFXI.

I don't mind having SAM as tank. Holding hate with WS would be awesome. SE seriously need to introduce WS combo burst just like in FFXI.

Thief would be awesome. It was my main in FFXI.

You know they could actually do something a little different if they did decide to go with SAM as a tank, say make it similar to WAR in it's ability to actually do decent dmg but maybe give it abilities that increase its damage the lower the mobs life is and other such abilities with off tank prioritization in mind. Or another tank type job that would actually be geared towards off tanking, so good tank great off tank.

Post 36 might be on to something they are covertly testing with auto weapon swap a with soul gems. Relics as job keyed weapons automatically equips the required gem.

Make Samurai a healer.