[Suggestion] Allow 100% sp/exp for multi mob kills

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Originally Posted by SydeBeheln

True strike.

I am not sure how the balance of mob vs. rank is. But is sp in total based on level of the mob? If so, then decrease sp rewarded drastically for under leveled mobs, and semi boost the sp rewarded by equal-higher level mobs. In xi mobs too under your level give 0 xp. That gives some extra push for players to explore and fight mobs in areas suitable for there level.

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without getting all detailed because i do know everything either. it is a base sp for each mob with a bonus for mobs above 10 levels above you. mobs sp does decrease if they are below you. i was just looking at if aoe's were allowed full sp you could kill more lvl30 mobs in a single shot than you could a level 45 mob even with the sp difference the combined of 5 lvl 30 mobs would be comparable with less chance of death. this would lead to less people willing to group and fight the tougher mobs.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

without getting all detailed because i do know everything either. it is a base sp for each mob with a bonus for mobs above 10 levels above you. mobs sp does decrease if they are below you. i was just looking at if aoe's were allowed full sp you could kill more lvl30 mobs in a single shot than you could a level 45 mob even with the sp difference the combined of 5 lvl 30 mobs would be comparable with less chance of death. this would lead to less people willing to group and fight the tougher mobs.

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The current SP equation is this:

Solo EXP = [base exp] x [dlvl] ; (SP = 40% of EXP)

dlvl is capped at 10. You don't get more SP from fighting mobs that are 11 ranks or higher than you.

In order to prevent the scenario you are picturing, I'd increase the dlvl cap to 15 or 20 so that players are encouraged even more than now to fight stronger mobs so that the more risk you take, the more reward you get.

I'd also implement SP chains like in FF11, but tweak it so that you only get an SP bonus if consecutive mobs defeated are at least 5 ranks higher than you.

Furthermore, I would adjust respawn rates so that even if you could one shot a bunch of trash mobs 5 at a time for worthwhile SP, you'd run out of mobs to kill and have to wait for the respawn.

Basically, I think there are ways to implement multi-claims without it being as exploitable as astral burns are.

2-3 claim limit is good i think, i never really got more thn 2 links when i did raptors. Behest and Leve mobs should be 100% claimed from start.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

The current SP equation is this:

Solo EXP = [base exp] x [dlvl] ; (SP = 40% of EXP)

dlvl is capped at 10. You don't get more SP from fighting mobs that are 11 ranks or higher than you.

In order to prevent the scenario you are picturing, I'd increase the dlvl cap to 15 or 20 so that players are encouraged even more than now to fight stronger mobs so that the more risk you take, the more reward you get.

I'd also implement SP chains like in FF11, but tweak it so that you only get an SP bonus if consecutive mobs defeated are at least 5 ranks higher than you.

Furthermore, I would adjust respawn rates so that even if you could one shot a bunch of trash mobs 5 at a time for worthwhile SP, you'd run out of mobs to kill and have to wait for the respawn.

Basically, I think there are ways to implement multi-claims without it being as exploitable as astral burns are.

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yeah, that was my only concern was the thought of something like that happening again. i like to group play too much to have people would rather solo because they could get more sp. would ruin the reason for grouping and would take away the need to actually learn how to work with a group.

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Originally Posted by Synapse

2-3 claim limit is good i think, i never really got more thn 2 links when i did raptors. Behest and Leve mobs should be 100% claimed from start.

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i still have yet to figure out why behest and leve mobs are not already claimed mobs. it just makes basic common sense to me.

I really don't understand the logic behind the 1-mob claiming system. I don't think it stops any job from grinding too quickly. I think thats what the fatigue system is for.

if you cant get the sp/xp out of mobs you aoe, why is there aoe at all? they could just make cure/regen aoe always and the rest single target. Its not that playing mage atm is fun anyways, but keeping a mage from doin things differenty from normal DDs makes it even worse.
What are mages for? just stupid curing and bad single target DD? i hope that will change a lot.
I think nobody really wants to stick to a healing /nuking job the way they currently are.
SE should rather fight rmt directly then just limiting the game in so many ways. It didnt do any good so far and only makes ppl angry. And as stated before. the "burn" parties the way they were in ffxi don't work anyways.