Extremely disappointed in my Dragoon after attempting T4

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Originally Posted by Ayasee

http://i.imgur.com/xlUdKC4.png
2-3 week old parse on a striking dummy for ~112 seconds when I had less ilvl 90 than I currently do right now. No food, potions or party buffs.

If you are doing <250 on a single target, it's a player issue, not a DRG being underpowered lol. But you know, since you're doing more DPS than I am enjoy being stuck in Turn 4.

Of course, I do a little more now with more ilvl 90 gear in addition with the party buffs and food in Coil.

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Quoting so OP can read it twice.
Also My MNK with ilv80 relic & DL does more dps than your DRG.
So Player issue, written all over the thread.

Can Vouch for Ayase... dude puts up better numbers than most DRG in server.. he's asian so yea...
let me know if u see another drg put up 290 in titan and 275+ inTurn 4

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Originally Posted by Tenku

Please show us your amazing parse on the Dreadnaught in T4.

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I will when Coil resets later. :)

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Originally Posted by Ayasee

http://i.imgur.com/xlUdKC4.png
2-3 week old parse on a striking dummy for ~112 seconds when I had less ilvl 90 than I currently do right now. No food, potions or party buffs.

If you are doing <250 on a single target, it's a player issue, not a DRG being underpowered lol. But you know, since you're doing more DPS than I am enjoy being stuck in Turn 4.

Of course, I do a little more now with more ilvl 90 gear in addition with the party buffs and food in Coil.

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What's your rotation, tell me now.

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Originally Posted by Tenku

The gears on Bards have all DEX and your attributes are all DEX which adds to accuracy. I am accuracy capped with those gears on bard for T4.

The PUG we brought ran the parse multiple times. Our BLM ran a different parse multiple times. They were consistent.

We were also able to get the Dreadnaught down in the same amount of time on my BRD compared to my DRG.

The parse is correct.

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dex attribute does not contribute to accuracy, it only contribute to your attack power for range classes (in this case BRD). Accuracy is an entirely independent attribute which is shared by both melee and casters. you need about 470 accuracy for turn 4 to achieve 100% hit rate.

side note: Dex also contribute to block rate

http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Attributes

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Originally Posted by Pellegri

So if your dragoon parsers for that much then how much does your bard parse for? Because if you say more than your dragoon then you are flat out telling people you are trolling(which you are anyway). Reply to what I said earlier, you are calling out people for being bad and yet you seem to think dex gives accuracy for bards or any class for that matter. It is impossible to do the numbers you are doing on your bard(even for turn 4) with toxotes gear and a relic, you do not have the accuracy and you do not have the stats to be anywhere near there.

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Accuracy on my BRD is 469. Accuracy on my Dragoon is 478. Why don't you ask the other people in my group how well my BRD in shit gears did. Setsune Mystbane, Locke Cole, Ecthorn Bale, Morbos Calendari, Ayucia Draeien, Melena Cait.

Like I said. I love my DRG, but it's obvious that BRD does much more DPS.

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Originally Posted by Tenku

Accuracy on my BRD is 469. Accuracy on my Dragoon is 478. Why don't you ask the other people in my group how well my BRD in shit gears did. Setsune Mystbane, Locke Cole, Ecthorn Bale, Morbos Calendari, Ayucia Draeien, Melena Cait.

Like I said. I love my DRG, but it's obvious that BRD does much more DPS.

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I'll ask them. What's their SSN,DOB, and cell phone # so I can verify?

I got in a discussion with my FC about this and they are pretty far in coil telling me the EXACT same thing lol. They swore that shit gear bard was doing more or equal damage than his main DRG, on excalibur sever no less :p I don't know if I believe it but if it is true that kind of sucks. Accuracy is not an issue with Bard until you have most i90 myth gear.

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Originally Posted by Tenku

Accuracy on my BRD is 469. Accuracy on my Dragoon is 478. Why don't you ask the other people in my group how well my BRD in shit gears did. Setsune Mystbane, Locke Cole, Ecthorn Bale, Morbos Calendari, Ayucia Draeien, Melena Cait.

Like I said. I love my DRG, but it's obvious that BRD does much more DPS.

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It's also obvious that you suck on your dragoon if a bard with gimp gear is blowing away your decently geared dragoon. It's clear as day you're trying to make this out to be a post bashing bards and making up numbers trying to make a gimp bard out to be better than a geared anything. Equal skill and gear puts bard clear behind all 4 other dmg classes for single target and yet you come in here shouting that your crappy gear on your bard is able to outperform your gear on your dragoon(which it can't with your stats in tox gear and a dragoon wrist that is providing zero benefit for you other than secondary stats).

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Originally Posted by Pellegri

It's also obvious that you suck on your dragoon if a bard with gimp gear is blowing away your decently geared dragoon. It's clear as day you're trying to make this out to be a post bashing bards and making up numbers trying to make a gimp bard out to be better than a geared anything. Equal skill and gear puts bard clear behind all 4 other dmg classes for single target and yet you come in here shouting that your crappy gear on your bard is able to outperform your gear on your dragoon(which it can't with your stats in tox gear and a dragoon wrist that is providing zero benefit for you other than secondary stats).

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I'm the DRG and I'm the BRD. I am comparing my own damage. I went into T4 as both DRG and BRD and we did damage parses and that's what came up. I'm also either Top or 2nd best on the parser in every attempt. Only time I didn't get Top parse was when our BLM got lucky crits that put his numbers way up there.