Greatest change- do you dare, SE?

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Originally Posted by Kazamoto

No DRG for party, camp spot site with 30 dmg, but is it for 20 like 30 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 30 dmg instead? or half is 10 for 20 dmg?

UMM HOW i word this...

ok

u take 20 dmg no shooting for 30 dmg if drg, so divide 2 u dont shoot, u get 10 but for DRG it no 30, so 20 would be for DRG if u werent a RNG?

U have 20 dmg, u shoot 30 dmg, but if ur not RNG, u want HALF, with no time reload, so u get 10. but, BUT, u want no DRG since ur shooting, so its 30 dmg or 10?

I took taken 20 dmg, but for RNG 30 dmg, so if u start from camp u want HALF for DRG, so 10, but if I attack FIRST, do get I 30 dmg or 20 ?

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Being a Dragoon myself I don't have much problem getting into a group that does coil. The main problem people have is that melee dps are undependable in boss battles and are a liability. That is completely understandable because I have seen a lot of mindless dps who don't know how to dodge and just die 1/4 way into the battle.

What it basically boils down to is if you are good and dependable dps. How do you prove that? I dunno. Groups usually question me about my experience.

Tanks and Healers will always be in demand for many reasons. As a dps, just suck it up and prove you're better than the rest by getting the best gear you can get and the most experience. Do coil runs with pug groups or your FC for fun without the aim of completing it. The experience you get is worth it.

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Originally Posted by Faelandaea

If healing were so easy that even a DPS player could play it, that would actually ruin the fun for me.

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to be fair I think they're just different, I play all 3 roles and I don't think any of them is mechanically hard

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Yes, as melee DD. What do I see in clan chat or in Mordhona chat- Coil needs healer, Coils need tank, blm, bard... I dont see "Coil needs drg (monk)

Please, lets discuss this meleeDD problem, pals- it is not only my personal problem. MAybe developers will make something

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How do you know that those coil groups are not looking for that [insert random job]here?

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Originally Posted by Miiu

SE could make DD less attractive and more tedious to play so more people will roll tanks and healer.

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Ever try dodging AOE's? They did that...People still roll DPS.

Tanking is very visibly broken...The lesser evil = DPS...It is what it is.

People rarely shout for DD for coil for the same reason we have longer wait times in DF, there are more of us, so the DD spots fill quickly and easily. If even the people you play with regularly don't want to bring you, then that may be a different story. My mnk is consistently highest dps in my FC, even on movement intensive fights like Titan. However, a lot of people suck at melee DD jobs, and even though plenty of people suck at ranged DD, it is easier to get decent dmg out of a sucky bed than it is a sucky mnk, and the sucky brd probably won't get hit as often as the sucky mnk, so in PUGs people hedge their bets and choose ranged DD a lot. As for cool, every group I know has at least one melee DD, but that's just my experience.

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Greetings... Oh... Im tired of being DD- Im monk. Why tired? Always healers and tanks are in need- noone need DD, especialy monk or dragoon. Especialy in Coil. You can advise to me to change class- that is nice, but I dont want. I like monk, but I cannot find group to Coil in my clan, in Mordhona. Nowhere- tanks, healers and Rdd are in need- noone like melee DD. So, I think... dear SE- can you change these master law of all MMORPG- to make melee DD here, in FF, much more valuable. I dont know how you will do this, but please, make something(

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Hey, did you know your last name is your first name spelled backwards? Cause it is.

The funny thing is, Monks, at least, are tedious to play (i've not played monk or drg past level 10) and people still play them. Simple fact is, people don't care if they're doing it badly as long as they're fun.

No, instead ranged DD need positional requirements (I don't really want this) or melee need them mostly removed. It's a big deal to dodge your red, still get in proper position, dodge the tank's/other melee's red, and also have to deal with the boss either turning because of one his attacks or because the tank moved him. In a game like wow where dancing fights aren't so common, positional requirements would be okay, but in this game they put too much load on a melee and ranged jobs, especially bard, shine so much more.

While Bard's LB is stupid, if a ranged had a single target limit break, noone would bring melees at all.

why not just make monks invincible? that way you do not need tanks or healers.