.3 Second Positional Update Delay (Requesting Dev Response)

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

... you posted this on a friday night and the community team usually isn't active on the weekend.

*snip*But is this delay really about the updating of the player's position (the .1-.3 sec delay)? or is it really just the player having high latency, possibly doubling or tripling the response time in this situaiton?

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Good thing the thread will still be here next week, hopefully with enough likes and responses to merit a response regardless of the title (honestly have no idea why that's a touchy thing with some people).

Annnnyway, I honestly have no clue what my ping is. I live in Florida, and pay for a fair speed internet. My download using speedtest is always around 70 MB/sec and upload hangs around 5 MB/sec, it's not what I would consider crappy internet. As mentioned in the initial post, I fall in the 85%-90% range, which means I can dodge most things in the game. I will sometimes mess up and hesitate, or start off in the wrong direction, and that's enough to get me hit.. but generally I dodge successfully because I'm out by the magical percentage.

I honestly think it's a combination of latency and the way the client sends character position. I imagine the server is handling the boss casts. So say.. boss starts casting, server sends that to the client, client does a positional check at some point and sends it to the server, meanwhile server is going "boss cast ended, what recent data do I have on player location?" and judging right then. It may not have actually received the latest position from the client due to latency.

I do think that it's still SE's issue though, as explained in the long post of stuff. No other MMOs have this as an issue, even when handling players with high latency. I also find it hard to believe that this MMO has a larger percentage of players with high latency compared to other MMOs. Either way, something is definitely wrong here.

This is a thread that needs to be noted by devs. Just any information on what/if they're going to do about this would be nice, even if its a "We don't know yet".

I also fall somewhere around the 85% range, but as long as it stays at that level it doesn't really cause major issues. I never get hit unless I know I've been bad (or I experience one of those mysterious R0 pause->fastforword lag spikes, but that's an entirely different issue). I've even gotten into the habit of using this delay to my advantage to allow casting when moving once my own cast bars reach a similar level. In Titan, Demon Wall, or ADS for example, I can often time it so my in-progress cast goes off after I've successfully dodged the AoE without being interrupted by the server.

Essentially, according to the server, my cast must have truly completed with healing processed server-side when my cast bar reached ~85% on my screen, but in regards to fairness and balance, the same also occurs with enemy cast bars and damage. The syncing performed by the servers, while it exists, just isn't stringent enough.

I do feel for those who experience this issue in the much more extreme fashion of those 50% videos. If it really is that bad for some people, that goes beyond what you can compensate for.

It's an awful mechanic that needs to be looked into.

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Originally Posted by C-croft

Workaround:

Level BRD.
Don't stop moving. Ever.
Golden.

Probably not the workaround you are looking for though.

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Show me a vid of 7 bard and a tank killing titan and I'll take you up on your suggestion

This needs to be fixed asap. >.< Thank you OP for taking the time to make this thread!

Thank you OP for this, along with latency, this is the biggest issue of the game.

0.3 sec. it's REALLY too much.

I love how square-enix continues to say this is an issue with our ISP's however, it is rather obvious the problem lies on there end. The amounts of time i got hit by aoe, even when I was already way out of the casting area is just sad and extremely frustrating. 0.3 second delay with servers based in canada means the client will take 0.3 seconds + the extra time needed to travel there, which can be for anyone near 0.1 to 0.3 seconds extra depending on your internet speed is it not.

I don't get it, there's nothing they can do. Why does this thread exist?

Thank you OP for posting this and sorry if SE completely ignores it. SE please fix this issue. I personally wouldn't mind the servers going down for a couple months if it means fixing a core aspect of the game. Please stop being greedy and taking our money while ignoring our requests for quality gameplay. We appreciated your ownership in revamping the entire game from v1.0. Please don't lose our trust and respect over this (and our money :P)