I hope this game doesn't become like FFXI

Thing with XI though, I reached cap quicker in that game these days than I can in even WoW. So I don't see how turning it into XI would go against it since all XI did right was pretty much everything down to the basics. What XI did wrong was make A LOT of time dominant systems and poor drop rates.

Beyond that, XIV can't even get the linkshell system correct and XI's I can make in flash in 3 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Cxplorer

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No, of course you have a right to your opinion. But you have presented it in an inflammatory manner. The question of how difficult or time consuming the content being added to FFXIV should be is a valid one. But you presented it in the form of a threat to quit the game. Also, you used 8 exclamation marks for four sentences.

Personally I don't see why they can't have varied content, some of which requires more time and effort, and some that is easier and quicker to do. Which is what they seem to be doing.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Thing with XI though, I reached cap quicker in that game these days than I can in even WoW. So I don't see how turning it into XI would go against it since all XI did right was pretty much everything down to the basics. What XI did wrong was make A LOT of time dominant systems and poor drop rates.

Beyond that, XIV can't even get the linkshell system correct and XI's I can make in flash in 3 minutes.

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Right, FFXI had a lot of mistake (Many which SE recently fixed), and had a lot of problems. One of the biggest problem was the huge inflation in Late 2005, and of course the constant monopolization of many, many NMs by linkshell that consistently bots.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

I agree, since constantly dying must be the only definition of "challenge" lol.

You do know outside of burn setups and supertanking DM was indeed one of the more challenging BCNMs in that game, right? Though I'm sure you probably also would say Kirin wasn't a challenge when it was in it's prime either. Nothing is a challenge as time goes on. That's logical.

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I dont get this Dying? where did I say I just went in and kept dying?

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

Just so you know, Mana Burn DM is only "easy mode" and not the true way to fight it. I personally refused to do DM like it.

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Read my comment then quote me before you start blabbing on.

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Originally Posted by Cxplorer

I really hope that this game doesn't become like FFXI. I hate Final Fantasy XI with a passion!! That game was too hardcore!!!

Otherwise I quit this game for good!!!

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ummm ffxi wasn't all that hard.... or really all that time consuming tward end game it was time consuming, but was more on the side of the players not the game. I was a casual ffxi playuer for a year (timebase) and was a casualy hardcore ( i played lightly but for 12 hours)

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I dont get this Dying? where did I say I just went in and kept dying?

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Challenge is subjective. When you say "you must be bad if you think it's a challenge" generally mean you assume challenge = constantly dying.

Things are legitimately challenging, just like promyvion's were a whole new world to players at the time.

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Originally Posted by Ark_mage2

No, of course you have a right to your opinion. But you have presented it in an inflammatory manner. The question of how difficult or time consuming the content being added to FFXIV should be is a valid one. But you presented it in the form of a threat to quit the game. Also, you used 8 exclamation marks for four sentences.

Personally I don't see why they can't have varied content, some of which requires more time and effort, and some that is easier and quicker to do. Which is what they seem to be doing.

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time doesn't equal hardvcore. Only challege presented. Other then that I agree with ya.

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Originally Posted by Cxplorer

I really can't understand why you people wants this game to look like FFXI!!! FINAL FANTASY XI IS PURE CRAP!!! aaargh!!

I really hope that Final Fantasy XIV doesn't because like Final Fantasy XI!!!!

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Yea I hope it doesn't because like FFXI either become I can't understand.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Challenge is subjective. When you say "you must be bad if you think it's a challenge" generally mean you assume challenge = constantly dying.

Things are legitimately challenging, just like promyvion's were a whole new world to players at the time.

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What lol like talking to a brick wall. I'm just saying DM was not challenging, sure maybe first time as you're completely clueless but after that first run I never died or failed after. And my friends would usually do the same strategy, the only time it got "tough" was when randomers came who have not done it and messed up or a tank DC's, but thats not challenging just dumb luck lol.

Promy was kind of challenging due to limitations.

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

Right, FFXI had a lot of mistake (Many which SE recently fixed), and had a lot of problems. One of the biggest problem was the huge inflation in Late 2005, and of course the constant monopolization of many, many NMs by linkshell that consistently bots.

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The thing with XI only about 5% of endgame involved bottable mobs (Faf/Nid, Ada/Aspi, Behe/KB, DI and SW to an extent) outside those almost none of the other mobs where botted. And all the gear from them could be gotten in other events. Inflation ended in the summer of 2006.

Yea bots where bad but they no where near stopped non-botters from doing endgame... anyone who disagrees has not played FFXI since 2006.

Recently SE nuked about 3/5ths their playerbase in XI with Abysea changing the game, costing them millions of dollars of revenues a month. I would question if that was the right thing to do, once that was added thier subcount went from around 500k to about 200-230k and forced them to do 2 server merges in a year... I would not call that a good thing.