Speed-running cut-scene skippers...

Uninterrupted non jackass story telling at a local inn near you.

But to be honest and if you seriously think about it. What else do we have to do but run the same damn dungeons that you have to.

Sometime you can't get a full group for a speed run so you have to chance it in DF. It sucks I get it. But there is literally 0 difference at the Inn. And really you got a free clear. You will get your chance again. I promise. Welcome to endgame.

Report them and move on then, I have no idea what you expect SE to do about that.

They made fun of you, so what? You want to perma-ban them?

Please.

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Originally Posted by RyujinUzikin

I play for the experience, the gameplay, if the game is giving me the choice to watch cutscenes at the comfort of an inn room, alone, with no interruptions, I rather watch them there, than make people wait for me. It's called being a mature adult, not a CM baby.

If we didn't have the choice to see cutscenes later on then by all means watch the cutscenes.

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That's fine if you want to play like that, but for most it creates a disjointed experience. Imagine playing every other FF without cut scenes, doing every boss fight without dialogue or anything, then going back and watching the scenes on a vhs or whatever. Its just not the same.

Like I said, that's fine that you want to watch em in privacy, but if you abuse/troll/harass/mpk other players for wanting to watch them...

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Originally Posted by RyujinUzikin

We're not playing other ff games, we're playing an online game with people who have lives, jobs, etc.

If you want to play solo you play a solo game, just understand that every choice you make in this game doesn't affect you alone. Knowing that I think it won't kill you to skip cs's, but that's out of everyone's control.

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Yes, you play with other people. Other people that may actually want to watch the cut scenes. If you want everyone to play the game how you want to, why not go play a single player game? We are not your npc party members. If you don't want to play with people watching cs, drop the party, or drop the game and go play a single player game.

Now I just want to go in CM as a tank, bring a tank and healer friend and just do nothing but watch cutscenes. And if anyone gets a mouth on em I may develop a 'reading disorder'... suddenly.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

That's fine if you want to play like that, but for most it creates a disjointed experience. Imagine playing every other FF without cut scenes, doing every boss fight without dialogue or anything, then going back and watching the scenes on a vhs or whatever. Its just not the same.

Like I said, that's fine that you want to watch em in privacy, but if you abuse/troll/harass/mpk other players for wanting to watch them...

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We're not playing other ff games, we're playing an online game with people who have lives, jobs, etc.

If you want to play solo you play a solo game, just understand that every choice you make in this game doesn't affect you alone. Knowing that I think it won't kill you to skip cs's, but that's out of everyone's control.

People talk in CM runs?

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Originally Posted by Amyas

Like I said, that's fine that you want to watch em in privacy, but if you abuse/troll/harass/mpk other players for wanting to watch them...

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There's nothing wrong in asking newbies to skip the cutscenes, unless it be conducted in a blatantly derogatory manner (which in itself is reportable). If that doesn't work, then the other party members should /sit and wait for them, seeing as they should've been well aware in the first place of the risks in using DF to fill a party.

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Originally Posted by Flionheart

Why would I do that? There are more speedrunners in the DF.

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I was just saying, it applies both ways.. so.. who wins ? :(

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Originally Posted by RyujinUzikin

Why can't people just sit in their inn rooms and watch a full movie of all cutscenes without anyone interrupting you?

I don't get it...

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Because it ruins the immersion of the design as promoted by the developers. Yeah, you can watch the cut-scenes in your inn but it isn't the same, and you lose out on a lot of why you're doing what you're doing on your first run through.

I went through CM without realizing how awful people were going to be about playing cutscenes and rushing through the way we did (120 min dungeon completed with 80 min to spare with a few people doing first time) it made it the single worst dungeon experience I ever went through. It was so bad in fact that I never want to do CM again and I'd rather just do Primals or other dungeons with a lesser reward per run for tomestones then do that bull again.

So what I and my partner did when we went into Prae was state up-front that we wanted to watch the cutscenes. We made it clear up front and indicated if the majority weren't okay with that that we would drop group and wait for another. First one we did the majority weren't cool with it so I dropped, ate the 15 minute cooldown and waited for another group. This time the majority were okay with watching cutscenes so that's what we did. Two people complain but we all managed to make it through the dungeon with plenty of time, only had two wipes throughout the whole dungeon and had a good time. Much better than CM.

I think SE should add on their next patch something I suggested a while back, to divide in DF speed runs with regular runs. Speed runs free of cs and less time, regular runs with cs and full time.

I think it's a proper thing to divide newcomers with those who are just there to grind.


Sometimes people from your fc aren't around, or are too busy to party with you, DF never becomes obsolete.

I find Prae to be much more newcomer friendly. Of the numerous DF runs I've done of the place, it's been very rare to see people complain about newcomers watching the cutscenes all the way through, and because of that I just farm Prae for Tomestones rather than CM