Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

Neverreap for duty roulette just now.
Starts with good geared WAR, good gear on MCH, Mediocre on SMN. Ok, this should be a good run.

Tank pulls first island, goes deliverance, no defensive CD. Ok, not a great sign, but its the first island.

Tank pulls full second island, deliverance, no CD except thrill of battle right at the very end of the mobs life. Definately not a good sign.

Jump to boss before I can get off my SSII. Not great but whatever.

Before tank even lands, SMN pulls boss. Bad.

After Boss, all mobs, no CD, maybe hes saving them for the Final sting mobs.

Pulls all 4 bees and trees in deliverance, still no CD, I'm spamming heals to keep him up and as such, miss the quick window for final sting. (I can't Holy to stun as no defensive CD are being used.)No Holmagang, Tank dies. I keep us up until I get stung.

I die, I say "I don't mind healing deliverance, but please use defensive CD"

They start popping off about final sting not being blockable, to whick I have to respond "I know this, but I'm stuck spamming heals and missed Bene because of it, also I can't get any DPS in."

"Less talky, more healy" tank responds.

"Yeah..." I say, and stop dead. Eventually they kick.


Those times when runs could be so good, but people like DPS in fate leveled WAR ruin it.

I get the weirdest roulettes ever.

I queued into leveling roulette as a DRK, and got an in-progress Haukke Manor. The healer and DPS immediately tell me to just run ahead and not ask any questions. That tells me right away they're trying to fight something, so I dash to the basement floor since I didn't see them anywhere on the first floor.

As soon as I reach the stairs, I see the healer running up with a massive army of mobs behind him. Died laughing. Literally.

Apparently the previous tank DC'd before the dungeon even began, and the healer and DPS three-manned it up until they reached the basement, which is when they decided to straight up run through all the mobs there while picking up the keys to open the second boss room. Apparently I showed up right as they opened that room. We managed to clear the mobs that were still chasing everyone around and cleared the dungeon afterwards.

Got CM for my main scenario roulette. During the first pull, one of the tanks goes "Babies crying BRB." After a couple of seconds of running around like chickens with our heads chopped off, the other tank pipes up, "Sorry about the rough patch, didn't think I was going to MT." Someone asks why and he answers simply, "Numbers." And yeah the other tank had like 3k more HP and CM so naturally the one with higher numbers would MT. Makes sense, to me at least. One of the DPS couldn't wrap his head around it and yelled at the tank for queuing as a tank and not wanting to tank. That raised a flag, but in a moment of genre savviness the tank simply bowed out and said he was closing chat.

Of course the DPS wouldn't let it go and said something like, "He's going to break our cannons!" And someone else said, "Yea! I bet he will." Seeing that he had backup, the first DPS said, "CM is soo easy, but all it takes is one scrub to ruin it." That would be you. The tank doesn't let anything touch the cannons and the DPS and yesman say nothing. After the second boss, the DPS says, "If he had chat I would have told him to move it Cid for more DPS." Yesman, "I bet his chat isn't even closed." Seeing that he wasn't getting a rise out of the tank he starts nitpicking anything he can.

The tank did a fine job, took the abuse, and kept going. He could have just left or dramabombed back, but he didn't and for that I had to give him a com. So tank, if you read this, I'm rooting for you buddy.

Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak, I'm the healer (lvl 26 CNJ). I let the tank know we'll need to CC some of these, since 3 or monsters makes it difficult for me to heal, especially when poison damage is added on to it. Not surprisingly this advice goes unheeded (using CC is like letting the world know you have a tiny pecker/flat chest. I completely forgot about this), and the tank ends up dying a lot because of it. I actually found the DPSers in the group easier to heal, surprise surprise. The archer had the good sense to cross-class Cure. If he hadn't have done that, this group would have gone nowhere. So Mr. Archer, if you ever read this post, good call, dude!

Yesterday I was doing some A1 farming (well 5 runs) and I was one tank and the other was my boyfriend. Everything seemed ok, but two times out of five, we wiped.... because they killed 0.5 too fast (using the LB) and then didn't manage to kill the oppressor in time... two times wipe at 1% of oppressor. I even managed to go in DPS mode on my paladin which I am scared off because I seem to loose aggro fast ç_ç and it didn't help. Still I don't really understand I'm used to have always the other oppressor in focus to see their %

Queued Titan hard over the weekend. Every single noob to the fight (myself included) dropped to the floor on the second edge drop (we were fine on the first drop and were expecting it, missed it being a repeated thing.) Amusing more than anything else. Hey, guess who's new to the trial? Everyone who dropped at exactly the same time. Cleared it on the second go, also had someone being helpful and making sure we knew what happened. Yup, we figured it out.

Arboretum daily roulette this morning.
I had the weirdest BLM ever in my party. He wasn't BAD or anything, it was just...every single time the limit break bar would fill up one bar, he'd immidiately use it.
No matter if we were right before a bossfight, or in a bossfight, or if we were fighting a pack of only 2 mobs.
At one point I was like "you know that saving up the melee lb for the bosses would be more useful?" but didn't get an response.
He was also very particular about requesting the party to wait after the skip at the bee queen's place. I thought that maybe he had ran out of MP or had something to do in RL, but nope, he wanted to burn down the mobs still standing at the top of the slide.
Like, WHY? Everyone was already in safety. We just stood there for a full 2 minutes while he threw Fire II up the slide. What did we do the skip for then?! xD
I'm just...so confused u.u°

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Envoyé par Atoli

I'm just...so confused u.u°

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I love eccentric players like this. Haha, keeps duty finder interesting.

Had a shocker of a run in the research facility last night though. I went in with a friends new char, a monk. First pull the DRK's not holding aggro from me, all I have to do is my basic rotation and the mobs are on me. He's obviously a fresh 60 by the looks of his gear so I check his accessories and it's a mix of vit, str and dex, some of which is still 115. Oh well, we'll get through eventually, as long as the white mage can keep us up, my 15k hp compared with his 12k is keeping me alive when he dies (repeatedly) so we'll soldier on and hopefully finish it...

The Drk must have hit the floor about 10-15 times by the time we hit 25 minutes left on the timer. I tried my best to work out what he could do (other than sorting his dex accessories out which he admitted were just for ilvl (even at 115?!)) to get through this as he was saying he had failed to get through it yesterday as well. He didn't appear to be truly awful and had a basic grasp of his combos, although was holding off his cds to the last moment or not at all and seemed to not have provoke in his hotbar despite having GLD at 22. To make matters worse the whm's only words throughout the dungeon are along the lines of 'oops bad dsl' after a near wipe and 'ahhh broke keyboard' after an actual wipe on the first final boss attempt. Her healing wasn't coming fast enough nor strong enough and after yet another wipe she decides to back out with just the final final boss to go. Seconds later the tank dcs and doesn't come back. -.-

Luckily 2 fc members enjoyed a bonus and we blast through in minutes.

At least it made for an interesting run.

CM, I get healer that only does Medica 2 and "stfu" when I asked people to not follow me for last pull... Wasn't even pointed at him, was for people that didn't know the run and could've pulled something by accident...

Also, what is up with WHMs that only do Med 2 and think healing is only that?

This paladin in Pharos Sirius HM who pulled everything from the living rock on - the DPS consisted of two dragoons. Just why o.o

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Envoyé par Naliee

Also, what is up with WHMs that only do Med 2 and think healing is only that?

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Excellent question. I went to farm A2 last night, and completely forgot to remove the "in-progress", so of course.. I happened to join in progress. Players were arguing over 3 minutes, and trying to cheer the other white mage up, whom had been, according to the chats, been "abused" by the previous healer. (something they said was along the lines of "how did he dare to try to give tips when he had only single job - whm - himself ?")

I thought I'd see soon enough. It didn't take long unfortunately, to see why the previous healer had been votekicked/ had ragequit.
My cohealer started immediatly with Med 2 / regen on half the party. And kept doing that for the entire fight, aggroing a LOT of mobs everytime they'd pop, making everyone else's job quite tough. We managed it through. At the end of the fight, ALL players in the party (maybe an FC ?) congratulated the other Whm, saying how great her healing had been.

2 lessons I learnt then :
People can't take an advice without feeling offended. And they prefer to lie about someone else's performance rather than explain things and possiblly create an argument.

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Envoyé par Atoli

Arboretum daily roulette this morning.
he wanted to burn down the mobs still standing at the top of the slide.
Like, WHY? Everyone was already in safety. We just stood there for a full 2 minutes while he threw Fire II up the slide. What did we do the skip for then?! xD
I'm just...so confused u.u°

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Maybe that player thought you still got GIL for killing mobs?

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Envoyé par cgbspender

Excellent question.

2 lessons I learnt then :
People can't take an advice without feeling offended. And they prefer to lie about someone else's performance rather than explain things and possiblly create an argument.

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It always makes me wanna facepalm myself hard when I see WHMs that ONLY do Med 2/Regen... and then wonder why they are on the ground dead or why all mobs are going after them.

I try telling new healers to take it easy on Med 2 and Regen, specially when tank is pulling. Most of the times, they won't listen and then I'm clicking Med 2/Regen off when I'm pulling and they whine why I'm taking them off, I'm wasting their MP!

Meh.

Bismarck Hard.

Was trying to help a friend when the two serpents spawned. I see a whirlwind coming at me. What do I do to avoid it? I casually walk off the platform.

God, I'm an idiot.

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Envoyé par SaitoHikari

Bismarck Hard.

Was trying to help a friend when the two serpents spawned. I see a whirlwind coming at me. What do I do to avoid it? I casually walk off the platform.

God, I'm an idiot.

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Hey I did that in Leviathan once. "Oh crap he's coming right for me and there are bubbles gonna fall all around me..where do I go...aha! THIS WAY! *SPLASH* #$*&!"

Angry healer rant inc!

So I'm gonna admit I was being a jerk when I did this because I am tired of people of messing up. So I'm doing A4 because working on my relic and spamming it away. And this weekend I was in a bad mood and when I was doing A4 I kept getting more annoyed than usual of people messing up/things going wrong. So I'm doing a few runs last night and of course get to second phase, and look adds are up. What will happen? DPS kill ONE add and the rest are being held by me because they aggrod me. DPS continue on second leg and let me die. I go into full rage mode because this happened all weekend doing A4 and I am just so sick and tired of DPS ignoring adds. It's not even hard ads they melt when confronted with any DPS. I'm a damn WHM I can only take one at a time. And constantly DPS just ignore the adds and it causes numerous wipes. What is so hard about killing those adds? Anyway, I die and I just refuse raise from the second healer, going into the final phase I just ignored all dps and let them die one by one and healed the tank. Somehow we cleared it, but sure as hell wasn't helping. I didn't want to help. I am going on full protest. If DPS are not gonna do their job I'm not gonna do mine. I'll let them all die and they can dps the floor. Just kill the freaking adds!!

/endrant

Void Ark on AST, my co healer is another AST. We fight Echidna, we kill the snakes, everyone is standing in the middle and I have this sweeeeeeet AOE balance in my hand while the other AST has an AOE Royal Road but no card, so I use that bubble thingie, Aspected Helios, the AOE balance and finally Celestial Opposition. A goddamn awesome combo, which is destroyed three seconds later by the other AST who had nothing better to do than overwriting the balance with an AOE ewer. Just WHY, everyone was at full mana, and... I cry. And prior to this, the other AST always overwrit my cards with... weird stuff.

I dislike, no, I really hate healing with other astrologians o.o'

Just a couple minutes ago:
Daily roulette, join in progress as WHM, 20 minutes in, get Steps of Faith and don't even wondern bc ppl still bail after one wipe
It was kinda bad - the dps were mostly focused on the adds which were far behind the boss so canons were pretty much useless, Vishap was like 47% before he destroyed the gate and the SMN used the LB.
We start again and I'm really suprised no one left excpet the heal I replaced before. I figured it wont be the most relaxing run but hey, new palyer Bonus of 100 tomes is nice. Things were explained again, a tank and I got on the canons, less ppl died, it went generally much better and we finished without wiping again.
Pretty unspectacular actually untill I saw 6 ppl got the achievement from the clear - so everyone was new except me and the other WHM
I was like oO.
Let's say it explained a lot. Why the team was 'bad' and why we didn't abandon and just tried our best. It was a pleasent surprise. I'm glad the other WHM stayed all the time and it's kinda nice to know we helped 6 ppl get to HW ^_^
New players still know how to pull their shit together :D

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Envoyé par SaitoHikari

Bismarck Hard.

Was trying to help a friend when the two serpents spawned. I see a whirlwind coming at me. What do I do to avoid it? I casually walk off the platform.

God, I'm an idiot.

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I did that on Rav EX. It was after the two prays and I had the AoE on me and had to get away from everyone. Well, I got away from everyone.

Scholar got votekicked after asking the Astrologian to change to Diurnal. Not joking. This happened.

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Envoyé par SaitoHikari

Bismarck Hard.

Was trying to help a friend when the two serpents spawned. I see a whirlwind coming at me. What do I do to avoid it? I casually walk off the platform.

God, I'm an idiot.

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Titan Hm, my first time tanking but no where close to my first time running, everything was going great, until I took one step back and fell right to my death. Oops.

Playing ranged/caster is my bread and butter in MMOs, queuing for dungeons takes usually me on average 30 minutes here as DPS. Started levelling conjurer and first dungeon queue when i hit level 15... got instantly after applying for Duty Finder. Same thing happens for next two dungeons. I cry every time :eek:

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Envoyé par Saiah

Scholar got votekicked after asking the Astrologian to change to Diurnal. Not joking. This happened.

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Yesterday I did my trial roulette on AST and my co healer was a scholar, so I activated Diurnal. And guess what, Nocturnal would've been the better choice here as the scholar let Eos run on auto and never used Adloquium ._.

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Envoyé par cgbspender

Players were arguing over 3 minutes, and trying to cheer the other white mage up, whom had been, according to the chats, been "abused" by the previous healer. (something they said was along the lines of "how did he dare to try to give tips when he had only single job - whm - himself ?")

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I always find it hilarious when people try to make that as a core aspect of the argument, just cus you only have 1 job leveled means they have zero idea how to play. I only have 1 tank but doesnt take a lot of IQ power to know if your losing hate to turn on Tank stance or if your stealing aggro everytime that you may need to change up tactics. xD

As for my story, ended up running Fractal as a black mage, I am still learning my rotation but I think I am getting the basic down with some slips here and there trying to juggle all the skills. After the first boss I take a look at the names and notice the name "Avatar Korra" who I had tanked for a few weeks back using DF, complete with matching glamour. Just kinda funny to see someone you DF'd with from another server and meet em again :3

This is a story + a question.

I did A1 for the first time last night. I ran it four times (I wasn't having much luck with the drops, I think tonight I will sell myself bonus for A2-A4 in PF in exchange for passing on loot).

Each and every time I had trouble healing through the damage. At first I thought it was me, then I started noticing that people had vulnerability stacks. At one point the other healer had seven stacks and died (I managed to save that situation, but we ended up wiping to the self-destruct mechanic at the end. Boo, there go my comms). There were lots of DPS with stacks, four or five. I was doing a lot of rez'ing and I was out of MP more often than I should have been as a SCH.

Normally when I am new to a duty with minimum entry requirements met I assume that if there's a problem with the run it's probably me, but I wasn't getting any stacks. The stacks come from the AOE circles and columns, right? So if you just dodge AOE like you have been the whole game you shouldn't get any stacks at all? When there were no stacks, it was really easy to heal and I could DPS for a long while. Is there something about that encounter that makes it harder to dodge for some classes (I only play SCH really)? It seemed like all four of my runs were like this...

The stacks of vulnerability result from the adds attacks. The more adds are biting a player, the more vulne, he'll got. That means 2 things in this case : if your co-healer had 7 stacks, it means he basically tanked them all, which should be the dps' jobs - bring the adds under the meteor, kill them to create a "mini" zone, and let the meteror goes mini when it reaches the floor (if it's not mini'ed, the attack that comes next is very powerful).

This is probably what happened. Cohealer tanked / adds not killed under the laser and meteors / Meteors hit the ground > heavy attack > Lots of rez to do.

Not your mistake at all. Totally a DPS failure.
The vulne stack aren't too hard to heal through, even when 7 stacks though. But you pay for it when the meteor attack comes next.

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Envoyé par cgbspender

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Ah, so the vulnerability comes from the adds, which absolutely have to be killed under the nukes, so any DPS positioning the vital adds will pretty much get unavoidable stacks. That makes a lot more sense. That would also explain why I didn't get any stacks. I contributed DPS to the adds, but I never had aggro on them. Thanks for this!

I'll do some mitigation before the add phase and I'll save some AF for indo after the nukes and that should fix it. :)

Celebrating the positive: Void Ark run last night, no wipes, got through Cuchulainn with one tank death but otherwise no issues, got the loot I'd really been wanting, cleared in maybe 40 min? My party was all FC members and at one point I dropped a Deathflare pull on a boss, said "Goodbye cruel world" certain I was about to get one shot, my Astro healer calmly saved my ass as our tank got aggro off me and one of our BLMs and said "what's that? Not dead?" It's always awesome to go in with a party that you know will have your back.

Today Roulette Lv50 gave me Tam-Tara HM in progress. First time using my new video card (GTX 960). With onboard video (Intel HD 2000) was hard avoid aoe of last boss, but playing to 60fps was easy :)

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Envoyé par jooozek

Playing ranged/caster is my bread and butter in MMOs, queuing for dungeons takes usually me on average 30 minutes here as DPS. Started levelling conjurer and first dungeon queue when i hit level 15... got instantly after applying for Duty Finder. Same thing happens for next two dungeons. I cry every time :eek:

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The queue times on tanks and healers are glorious, but I cry because I get more DPS comms.

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Envoyé par FunkYeahDragons

The queue times on tanks and healers are glorious, but I cry because I get more DPS comms.

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eh ? Got 5000+ com's. Think we care anymore ?

http://i66.tinypic.com/24l0l52.jpg

Omg it's the apocalypse!

Edit: Sorry about the sideways picture, wasn't like that on my mobile when I posted it, idk how to fix it for pc browser. :(

Ex roulette, I got BRD who sang me Foes while I was WHM

Thank you mister BRD, my Holys were amazing and you got my comm <3

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Envoyé par TheUltimateSeph

http://i66.tinypic.com/24l0l52.jpg

Omg it's the apocalypse!

Edit: Sorry about the sideways picture, wasn't like that on my mobile when I posted it, idk how to fix it for pc browser. :(

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I think that tends to happen when the day appears to be Bismark/Ravana day.

So I queue up for my personal Alex roulette, get A3, we have a newbie in A3, I'm all like 'sweet a bonus.'
Everything goes well until we wipe once at the boss, the other tank goes "ok so all of you are new. awesome" and then up and leaves.
Unsurprisingly, we get a new tank and finish the boss with no problems.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gotta love those princess tanks who just screw themselves over cus they are too good to be around new people. :3

I wonder if he would be angry if I told him the best run I had remains that one Aurum Vale run where everyone except me was legitimately new. Wish I took a screen shot..and I'm glad I guided them through the worse dungeon in the game with a positive experience.

Almost makes me want to log in and queue for it. LOL

one time i was in an a3n group where the tanks and dps weren't a waste of space and hp and we skipped tornado entirely. but that was months ago.

Was Tanking The A. Research Facility and pulled the first three mobs, someone ran into the room where the enemies appear from the ground so I grab them and pop my cooldowns while thinking "Ah well there was a new guy".
Healer can't keep up though and we wipe. Again and again and again... someone pulled all the enemis to the spawn point and as one person dies the next one respawns, pulls aggro and dies again. I was cracking up at that point because, come on, that's ridiculous! One of the DPS didn't think it was funny though, said "this is pathetic" and left.
I explained the thing with the enemies and we continue after getting a new DPS.

Someone pulled the second boss as soon as we got into the room, but oh well. On we go. The rest went not as smoothly as my usual runs but whatever.
The thing I realized too late was that the Healer who I thought was new and who I gave my commendation was actually not new and I'm pretty sure he was the one who pulled everything... now I think I got trolled and I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry.

I think I was there for it, I was on DRK.