If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you are holding back your team at endgame

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Originally Posted by Shizato

I'm a troll, please feed me!

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No.
/tenchar

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Originally Posted by Doo

Yeah that's more of a definition of team play rather than healer role. Players are suppose to help each other out and do everything they can to help the team win.

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no, team play IS NOT covering for each others failures to ensure a win - team play IS not failing your team in order to secure a win - is it OK to cover for each others failures to ensure a win? of course, just like charity is OK but you dont expect nor require charity, either...

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Originally Posted by Doo

Yeah that's more of a definition of team play rather than healer role. Players are suppose to help each other out and do everything they can to help the team win. Like if a dd or healer accidentally aggros a boss, it's not the tanks role to get the add of them cuz the other players messed up but it would be a nice team play gesture.

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Just put it on ignore, this one isn't interested in conversations as to why a healer would want SC. It just wants to be bad while thinking its good with its own form of elitism.
Again, the mental gymnastics baddies go through to be 'right' is astonishing.

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Originally Posted by Shizato

no, team play IS NOT covering for each others failures to ensure a win - team play IS not failing your team in order to secure a win - is it OK to cover for each others failures to ensure a win? of course, just like charity is OK but you dont expect nor require charity, either...

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Doesn't makes sense at all I'm sure you die often before during the learning process and you wouldn't call it charity.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

Just put it on ignore, this one isn't interested in conversations as to why a healer would want SC. It just wants to be bad while thinking its good with its own form of elitism.
Again, the mental gymnastics baddies go through to be 'right' is astonishing.

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says the player who wants to blame a wipe on someone who ACTUALLY dodged...mk...you go with that then

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Originally Posted by Doo

Doesn't makes sense at all I'm sure you die often before during the learning process and you wouldn't call it charity.

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yes, the player who resses me when i fail to dodge and die is covering for my failure, and if we win its because of their charity, but if we lose when they dont res me its because of me failing to dodge and dying...

its really simple, i assure you...

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Originally Posted by Shizato

yes, the player who resses me when i fail to dodge and die is covering for my failure, and if we win its because of their charity, but if we lose when they dont res me its because of me failing to dodge and dying...

its really simple, i assure you...

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It's simple because it's some messed up logic.

shizato u dont even have a healer at this level. id suggest u actually play it before making any further comments on the matter. and seriously, being heals, ur job is pretty much to cover other people's asses. party comp is different based on their gear. some are easier to heal than others. and most of the time, out of really good premade parties ur gonna be covering for a few of mistakes made by ur party members. DF anyone?

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Originally Posted by Axidrain

shizato u dont even have a healer at this level. id suggest u actually play it before making any further comments on the matter. and seriously, being heals, ur job is pretty much to cover other people's asses. party comp is different based on their gear. some are easier to heal than others. and most of the time, out of really good premade parties ur gonna be covering for a few of mistakes made by ur party members. DF anyone?

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carpe noctum, as in the signature

just because you CAN do something doesnt mean it is your JOB to do it...

i have yet to join a team that told me if i dont cover for their failures then i would be replaced...

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Originally Posted by Shizato

says the player who wants to blame a wipe on someone who ACTUALLY dodged...mk...you go with that then

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You know, it's not just the getting hit by a plume that can get you killed. Or it's not just DPS. Sometime you, yourself, the healer get hit by a plume. Or the tank lost hate for a second and the mob oneshotted the poor BLM. Or the tank didn't grab the mob in time during T4 and it oneshotted someone. Oh and, you know Swiftcast is not used only for raise, right? SCHs use it to re-cast the fairy or switch it, WHM can swiftcast Medica II in situation like Ifrit Nails, after Ifrit astral flow or Titan jumps.