FF14 is not made for hardcore players.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

Once again, said person doesn't even know what gaslighting is. I even replied directly to the quote that I was referring to, and it had nothing to do with the aforementioned.

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I'm pretty sure they do.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I'm pretty sure they do.

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"They're fearmongering because they *really* want to say something nasty, from what it seems. Be polite, and you won't have any problems." -MilkieTea

No, that has nothing to do with whether the ToS was changed.

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Originally Posted by MilitaryVet123

Do you realize that tanxiety is a thing? Maybe the person is playing tank for the first time ever and is pulling slowly as a result? Your comment is just layered with assumptions after assumptions about how players ought to play and how quickly they ought to learn. Not everyone can play as well as you or can learn as fast as you and that's OK. Just don't tell people to "git gud" as you have done previously.

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kid ur bad

I have to very much agree with MilitaryVet123 on the first post, unfortunately.

You can't impose someone else's way of playing, nor force yourself to improve. Everyone should play the way he or she likes it. If I notice or see that someone tells me I should use such and such skill or I should rather do such and such, I give a Sh**** on it, because it is very close to my heart to be "free". I also don't say that someone should use such and such skill or he should do such and such (with exceptions if you forget the tank stance or if the tank has low HP but the heal only AOE heals or spams his single/AOE attacks lol). I don't care if someone doesn't master their rotation or masters it 100%, you'll get through a content somehow.

In this sense: FFXIV is for me a place to chill, not to prove himself like one of the very strong here as a good player, you can very well claim with casual mindset and play style as a good player, you do not need toxic behavior or hardcore stuff!

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Originally Posted by Velnora

"They're fearmongering because they *really* want to say something nasty, from what it seems. Be polite, and you won't have any problems." -MilkieTea

No, that has nothing to do with whether the ToS was changed.

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It does. Reread that in the context it was in, instead of taking things out of context to state that I am attempting to make you question your own sanity.

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Originally Posted by Feayn

I have to very much agree with MilitaryVet123 on the first post, unfortunately.

You can't impose someone else's way of playing, nor force yourself to improve. Everyone should play the way he or she likes it. If I notice or see that someone tells me I should use such and such skill or I should rather do such and such, I give a Sh**** on it, because it is very close to my heart to be "free". I also don't say that someone should use such and such skill or he should do such and such (with exceptions if you forget the tank stance or if the tank has low HP but the heal only AOE heals or spams his single/AOE attacks lol). I don't care if someone doesn't master their rotation or masters it 100%, you'll get through a content somehow.

In this sense: FFXIV is for me a place to chill, not to prove himself like one of the very strong here as a good player, you can very well claim with casual mindset and play style as a good player, you do not need toxic behavior or hardcore stuff!

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Everyone should play the way he or she likes it. If I notice or see that someone tells me I should use such and such skill or I should rather do such and such, I give a Sh**** on it, because it is very close to my heart to be "free".

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I also don't say that someone should use such and such skill or he should do such and such (with exceptions if you forget the tank stance or if the tank has low HP but the heal only AOE heals or spams his single/AOE attacks lol)

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they're just being free, my friend, please don't impose your own playstyle on others

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Originally Posted by Rinhi

they're just being free, my friend, please don't impose your own playstyle on others

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I don't do that either, only sometimes it seems to me like the others want to force something on you :/ That's how it seemed to me especially on the EU data centers, the ones on the American data centers are there.... to my knowledge... something more chilled? :(

Here's the thing with guilds like Limit, Echo, Method etc coming over from WoW? I can see the game skewing to a more meta end game focused community. People copying them, and being better players than they think they are. That's my worry

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

Here's the thing with guilds like Limit, Echo, Method etc coming over from WoW? I can see the game skewing to a more meta end game focused community. People copying them, and being better players than they think they are. That's my worry

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The games content focus actively discourages this, because it's not focused solely on end game raiding. And Square Enix isn't gonna go and hire hardcore raiders to dev their game like WoW did and then hand them the keys after selling to a bigger corporation (no seriously Ion belonged to and ran a forum and guild called Elitist Jerks, Blizzard hired them to basically take over WoW post-Cata). If they do hire any hardcore raiders to dev they'll be forced to stay the current coursel because Final Fantasy games are vision oriented. So even when YoshiP has moved on to whatever he does next after FF14 and FF16, it's likely they won't be able to turn it into a l337 hardcore raider game. I could only see that happening if YoshiP or SE was like "we're making a new FF mmo", putting FF14 into a less heavy focus since it's likely much of the population will migrate there.

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Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu

Here's the thing with guilds like Limit, Echo, Method etc coming over from WoW? I can see the game skewing to a more meta end game focused community. People copying them, and being better players than they think they are. That's my worry

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This is definitely something to be concerned about. I don't want to see FFXIV turned into WoW II with all this end game competitiveness. Thankfully Yoshi P already said that they would never endorse something like a race to world first unless they evened the playing field by actually enforcing their existing TOS and preventing addons.