No more QTE please.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Well duh. First time I did this my hands were in pain from mashing. After reading about how deceptive the QTE was, I opted to just casually pressing, which was basically pressing Square and Left on the control pad which was roughly 4 taps a second (2 on Left, 2 on Square). My ping is also around 150-200 in this game. They did the QTE this way for story reasons. Overcome what would be a losing situation.

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As you said yourself. You smashed it too and only changed it after reading about how deceptive it is. So the QTE itself is pretty unclear on how to be done and you need outside of the game information to get that its a fake. (Most wont just wait and see when something goes down so fast) And that still does not solve the problem because its still not functioning that way for everyone.

We also had quite a few such QTEs in situations where we had to overcome a losing situation (so its honestly kind of predictable and boring to use such a thing there again..). Not a single one of them was that harsh..the fight always continued on and only you died and it was never so stressfull to do it. So there is still no good reason imo to make it that way for that fight.

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

There's no point in having a rational discussion when all you guys do is hunker down behind "challenging QTE that isn't challenging" as if it was Passage of Arms, and go "nuh uh, you need to discuss this and not give no u points" when someone points that out

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Intentionally misinterpreting what people are saying doesn't make you right, troll. QTEs are not challenging/engaging gameplay. However they pose a challenge for people who have problems with fine mobility. There are two different connotations of challenge being used here and your intentional conflation of them adds nothing to the conversation and just proves you don't care about the actual conversation, you're just trying to win imaginary internet debate points.

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

Intentionally misinterpreting what people are saying doesn't make you right, troll. QTEs are not challenging/engaging gameplay. However they pose a challenge for people who have problems with fine mobility.

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Yakuza series would like a word with you. And the people who have cleared games like TWEWY, on the DS mind, with literally no hands.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

As you said yourself. You smashed it too and only changed it after reading about how deceptive it is. So the QTE itself is pretty unclear on how to be done and you need outside of the game information to get that its a fake. (Most wont just wait and see when something goes down so fast) And that still does not solve the problem because its still not functioning that way for everyone.

We also had quite a few such QTEs in situations where we had to overcome a losing situation (so its honestly kind of predictable and boring to use such a thing there again..). Not a single one of them was that harsh..the fight always continued on and only you died and it was never so stressfull to do it. So there is still no good reason imo to make it that way for that fight.

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Eventually I would have figured it out on my own on how deceptive it is. When the bar is nearing the failing point, that's when a single press will immediately (and very noticeably) bounce it up by a lot (compared to before). So as long as you're at least pressing... idunno, 4-8 buttons a second, you should be fine. If on controller, rest it on your lap and have two fingers on left and right and another two on square and circle/triangle. If on keyboard, then A, S, K, L.

It's the final fight of Shadowbringers against a thing that's powered up by... spoiler juice and SE are notorious for cinematic/anime nonsense stuff at this point.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Eventually I would have figured it out on my own on how deceptive it is. When the bar is nearing the failing point, that's when a single press will immediately (and very noticeably) bounce it up by a lot (compared to before). So as long as you're at least pressing... idunno, 4-8 buttons a second, you should be fine. If on controller, rest it on your lap and have two fingers on left and right and another two on square and circle/triangle. If on keyboard, then A, S, K, L.

It's the final fight of Shadowbringers against a thing that's powered up by... spoiler juice and SE are notorious for cinematic/anime nonsense stuff at this point.

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The rhythmic pressing of one button like in the video still doesn't work. Three buttons or four might work for someone, but in my case, even this was not so easy, cause the slightest out of sync leads to a wipe, so I understand why people with poor coordination have problems. I have a friend with a lack of coordination, and so instead of performing QTE, he opens a million windows. Because he can't do it that fast. Pressing two buttons is still painful. However, thank you for trying to help.

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Originally Posted by Gula

Name calling and ad hominem.

I don't think I should begin to try reason with people who work down the pyramid.

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that's not what an ad hominem is, but i'm not surprised, i've literally never seen anyone use it right. ad hominem would be if i had automatically dismissed your opinion out of hand due to an unrelated thing about you.

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

that's not what an ad hominem is, but i'm not surprised, i've literally never seen anyone use it right. ad hominem would be if i had automatically dismissed your opinion out of hand due to an unrelated thing about you.

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There's still really no reason to just call someone a jackass. If you can't disagree without name-calling, that's something you need to work on.

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

that's not what an ad hominem is, but i'm not surprised, i've literally never seen anyone use it right. ad hominem would be if i had automatically dismissed your opinion out of hand due to an unrelated thing about you.

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Not sure why you're trying to be clever when you blatantly insulted someone because of an opinion you didn't like. Which by the way, is an ad hominem.

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Originally Posted by TyrTry

Not sure why you're trying to be clever when you blatantly insulted someone because of an opinion you didn't like. Which by the way, is an ad hominem.

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no, it literally isn't. insulting someone because they posted useless drivel isn't ad hominem. ad hominem is when you use someone's character to dismiss their unrelated argument. it's the "you're a thief so your opinion on video game storytelling is invalid" argument. you literally have ad hominem reversed.

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

no, it literally isn't. insulting someone because they posted useless drivel isn't ad hominem. ad hominem is when you use someone's character to dismiss their unrelated argument. it's the "you're a thief so your opinion on video game storytelling is invalid" argument. you literally have ad hominem reversed.

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You flat out called them a "jackass" and suggested their argument in pure drivel. Your statement is completely based on emotion. You don't have to agree with them or like their post, but it was unnecessary.

And play the "no your wrong" game all you like.