A serious discussion about abridging the story quest 1-50 (discouraging new players)

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Originally Posted by Tuathaa

The time it took you to write this you could have read the first post of this thread. Apparently you haven't.

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except the thread has chance from "making filler quest in main story optional" to "make main story quest optional"

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Originally Posted by Erepio

ill just leave this here

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So if you decide to watch the 1st season of a tv series when the series is on 2 or 3 to get caught up you are going to watch every single commercial in every episode in season 1. Why would you skip it? wouldn't it have been released they way they intended? and wouldn't skipping those then in turn ruin the integrity of the 1st season?

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Originally Posted by Tuathaa

So if you decide to watch the 1st season of a tv series when the series is on 2 or 3 to get caught up you are going to watch every single commercial in every episode in season 1. Why would you skip it? wouldn't it have been released they way they intended? and wouldn't skipping those then in turn ruin the integrity of the 1st season?

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and again u missing the point from what ive seen ppl are ok with trimming the main story down, what "we" are not ok with is making it completly optional which is what this thread has turn into to

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Originally Posted by Erepio

and again u missing the point from what ive seen ppl are ok with trimming the main story down, what "we" are not ok with is making it completly optional which is what this thread has turn into to

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The only reason it has morphed into making it optional is because the people who are against have no real valid argument against and turn it into it.

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Originally Posted by Tuathaa

The only reason it has morphed into making it optional is because the people who are against have no real valid argument against and turn it into it.

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i dont find "i dont like story and find it boring" a valid argument in making story optional is a good reason either

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Originally Posted by Erepio

i dont find "i dont like story and find it boring" is a valid argument in making story optional is a valid reason either

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if they dislike the story this mmo is not for them.even every single raidboss we do is tied into the story. so no they should go back to wow or swtor or whatever they played before.

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Originally Posted by Hypie

go back to wow

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This attitude worked wonders for Wildstar

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Originally Posted by Hypie

if they dislike the story this mmo is not for them.even every single raidboss we do is tied into the story. so no they should go back to wow or swtor or whatever they played before.

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People aren't saying they dislike the story people are saying they don't like the filler quests that distract from the main story. A concept a lot of people seem to have a hard time grasping.
I personally love the story and would do it if it was made optional or not but what I don't love is having to do a lot of non story related stuff just to move the main story ahead.

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Originally Posted by Tuathaa

People aren't saying they dislike the story people are saying they don't like the filler quests that distract from the main story. A concept a lot of people seem to have a hard time grasping.
I personally love the story and would do it if it was made optional or not but what I don't love is having to do a lot of non story related stuff just to move the main story ahead.

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xept a lot of the ppl defending story, including myself have said that trimming it down is fine but apparently the OP, and the thread itself after a point, went from "trim it down" to "make it completely optional" cuse some ppl dont like the story and find it boring period and thats what ppl defending the story have been commenting on, and honestly i dont rly expect em to go back to read OP when the OP has chance the thread discussion on his own


ps: u seem to cling on what the OP wrote on the first post and competently ignore the fact that the post is no longer rellevant

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Originally Posted by Hypie

if they dislike the story this mmo is not for them.even every single raidboss we do is tied into the story. so no they should go back to wow or swtor or whatever they played before.

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Then let's put it this way: what if they actually go back to WoW and SWTOR (which I'm currently subbing too) and not play this game instead?
Subscriptions won't rise, SE doesn't get ALL the money (because they're a company: that's all they care for, let's be honest here) and you get what you get: all wins (sort of).

Now granted I'm not saying that this game will lose subscriptions because of this issue: it's still a pretty decent MMO and the gameplay is good enough to have made this far and all my effort to withstand this boring story was somewhat rewarded in the end, but it's obvious that they want to lure as many players as they can since they made the "recruit a friend" return for more rewards. Still, if you start saying that "they should go back to WoW or SWTOR" because a new player doesn't like a story, I can assure you that they will. Nobody likes to be slapped that way.

If SE is fine by gating the content like this and having this amount of subscribers instead of more, then I hope for the best: they are simply losing more possible customers that could've been in SE paylist instead of BW or Blizzard. Are the subscribers getting even higher as we speak? Good, I'm not even complaining about it at this point: I'll just leave and go play, as you say, WoW and SWTOR because I apparently can't like a FF game without liking its story.

It's not that I play an MMO for its gameplay or anything!

PS: I just wanted to add that adjusting the MSQ doesn't mean removing: it means, well, adjusting, fixing, improving, making it go faster; as far as I'm concerned nobody really asked for removing it totally.