What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

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Originally Posted by PawPaw

Wait what? This is something that actually happened? I haven't finished the Role Quests but this isn't a joke? Cause it sounds like a joke...

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It's incredibly aggravating. What really gets me is that Quintus (someone who was in the story for a handful of cutscenes) gets his own unique character model, voice, and a spot in the trailer yet Nerva doesn't have a character model. We only see his blasphemy form. What was the point of bringing him up at all if they were just going to kill him in side content? The story would have been just fine if he had never been mentioned. Talk about a shaggy dog.

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Originally Posted by AnaviAnael

It's incredibly aggravating. What really gets me is that Quintus (someone who was in the story for a handful of cutscenes) gets his own unique character model, voice, and a spot in the trailer yet Nerva doesn't have a character model. We only see his blasphemy form. What was the point of bringing him up at all if they were just going to kill him in side content? The story would have been just fine if he had never been mentioned. Talk about a shaggy dog.

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They did similar with Regula, where even though he featured for a non-trial Weapon fight, they refused to show his form beneath the armour.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

They did similar with Regula, where even though he featured for a non-trial Weapon fight, they refused to show his form beneath the armour.

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It's funny, I was actually saying, "Nerva got the Regula treatment."

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Originally Posted by AnaviAnael

It's funny, I was actually saying, "Nerva got the Regula treatment."

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I actually asked about Regula's appearance during a number of Live Letter Q&A sessions and the question was picked out three different times. So they weren't unaware that people wanted to see what he looked like, or that Garlemald had its own share of fans.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Do you mean to say that this isn't what you come to FFXIV for?

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Definitely not. :P I loved HW, so it's off-putting (to say the least) to see the characters treated this way. *sigh*

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Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus

So while the Empty was a result of aether being completely stilled to the point that everything turned to white dust, the Void seems to be a warped and twisted world where everyone and everything has mutated into something grotesque.

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Well, in that case the 13th should be beyond hope. One of the points made when treating tempering was that once physical transformation had occurred they couldn't be helped. Plus, if the planet is truly fragmented then there's no star to save anymore either.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

They did similar with Regula, where even though he featured for a non-trial Weapon fight, they refused to show his form beneath the armour.

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To be fair we didn't see Gaius unmasked til 4.3 iirc. Although Nero was seen unmasked in ARR, so very inconsistent.

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Originally Posted by Rulakir

Definitely not. :P I loved HW, so it's off-putting (to say the least) to see the characters treated this way. *sigh*



Well, in that case the 13th should be beyond hope. One of the points made when treating tempering was that once physical transformation had occurred they couldn't be helped. Plus, if the planet is truly fragmented then there's no star to save anymore either.

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They'd probably need to employ techniques similar to that in Eden, but even that's a slow process, unless you take advantage of the fact that time doesn't flow the same between worlds. I suspect it's in a more dire state, but any lore about its aether being absent is based in the end on measuring instruments that weren't calibrated with the true nature of darkness being understood, leaving it wide open for them to say that aether's been there all along. I notice in their recent exposition of the lore on the Void they don't bring up that finding of the NOAH expedition, that the Void lacks aether, and instead focus on it being corrupted by an excess of darkness. I doubt they'll move towards it being restored - I think the Void stuff is just to resolve that plot thread and pave the way for voyaging to other Reflections. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I have.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

They'd probably need to employ techniques similar to that in Eden, but even that's a slow process, unless you take advantage of the fact that time doesn't flow the same between worlds. I suspect it's in a more dire state, but any lore about its aether being absent is based in the end on measuring instruments that weren't calibrated with the true nature of darkness being understood, leaving it wide open for them to say that aether's been there all along. I notice in their recent exposition of the lore on the Void they don't bring up that finding of the NOAH expedition, that the Void lacks aether, and instead focus on it being corrupted by an excess of darkness. I doubt they'll move towards it being restored - I think the Void stuff is just to resolve that plot thread and pave the way for voyaging to other Reflections. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I have.

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I'm not sure how the "time flows differently" rule works, either. Almost a decade had passed between Urianger being pulled into the first and the WOL's arrival, but ever since then, it seems like the two now move at a 1:1 ratio. Otherwise, it'd be funny to pop back over and Runar was now an elderly man with grandkids while a middle-aged Ryne and Gaia were cohabitating as life-partners.

Maybe that has something to do with the WOL still being able to go back and forth, but the point remains.

Eden is more side content I haven't done, so unfortunately those references are lost on me as well. I hate this direction they've gone where you have to have done raid content to have a full understanding of what's happening in the MSQ. This seems to have started when Ishikawa took over writing?

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Originally Posted by Rulakir

Eden is more side content I haven't done, so unfortunately those references are lost on me as well. I hate this direction they've gone where you have to have done raid content to have a full understanding of what's happening in the MSQ. This seems to have started when Ishikawa took over writing?

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Short explanation: Gaia is a sundered Ancient and formerly the Ascian known as Loghrif killed by Ardbert and crew. She has now reincarnated as Ryne's Oracle of Darkness counterpart and best "gal pal".