Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Yeah Dun Scaith definitely takes off the Kids Gloves and is going to beat those mechanics into your head or die trying. 10 deaths actually seems kinda tame to some runs of that I've done. Felt like I was just a rez bot a time or two...

When in doubt...follow the herd.

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The first boss is always a fun ride. It's a wonderfully chaotic "Welcome to Dun Scaith!" fight. It really catches people off guard. Kinda funny though that the following bosses are for the most part way easier. Mostly because they are more easily recoverable if things go south.

I've seen 17 people get blown off the first boss of Dun Scaith in one shot. They certainly stepped up after Void Ark.

I was the problem doing Alexander today. We cleared, but for whatever reason I was butter fingers casting the wrong spells.

Then during the fight where you have to turn into animals I would be damned if I could figure out how to cancel them. So there I was, the healer, wandering around as a bird waiting for the affect to expire while the other healer is working overtime. Sorry about that whoever you were, but I do also find it kinda funny.

Pray for me as I farm towards the mentor mount and constantly get added to groups with tanks wearing level 1 jewellery and not using cds.

To that E6n party I got matched into few hours ago,

I’m deeply sorry for bailing out instantly cause I forgot to change into my desired glamour.

Yes I’m that vain & I can’t help it.

/playdead

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

To that E6n party I got matched into few hours ago,

I’m deeply sorry for bailing out instantly cause I forgot to change into my desired glamour.

Yes I’m that vain & I can’t help it.

/playdead

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...this is more relatable than it should be.

A tale from party finder, but amusing nonetheless:

Farming Ruby Ex for the gwib, and a dancer joins the party. Omni-90, battle mentor crown, BIS pentamelded gear.

Proceeds to die minimum 3 times each pull, consistently 8 on the aggro list (with an astrologian in the party...). So I got curious and opened up the program that shall not be named, and whaddaya know, they're sitting pretty at 4-6% of total damage. Everyone else, including the 3 (!!!) other dancers in the party were all doing about 15ish% so it definitely wasn't a bad pull or two skewing the averages. Half the pulls they needed to be reminded to Dance Partner someone. At least once, I'm pretty sure they intentionally stacked on me for undermine despite there being PLENTY of space free.

Troll? Bought account? Really off day? Who knows.

What I do know is that they were the first one to get the gwib and then they immediately peaced out. Because of course lol.

At least after they were replaced, the remaining 42 runs (yes...forty-two; kill me) went a lot faster.

(Ha! Just looked them up on the forbidden website, and I honestly can't say I've ever seen someone parse a literal 0. I mean I guess someone has to, huh?)

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

...this is more relatable than it should be.

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Same. I can't leave a glamour unfinished. It just feels wrong.

Got a Hells Kier normal in roulette as a WHM and many were new so i was prepared for those phoenix resurrection and such but that wasn't really the problem.

What felt weird though was seeing the co healer with a full 610 set and it was just pressing random buttons: a random Medica with party all topped off, a random Holy, I think I saw a random Benediction with nothing happening... i was so confused that I ended up forgetting to heal the tank that much as I was focused on keeping the rest alive (plus not getting used to see all Suzaku's mechanics, we managed to loop too).

Felt like the healer just discovered the class for how it behaved, it couldn't be a bot though...

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Same. I can't leave a glamour unfinished. It just feels wrong.

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Back in Shadowbringers, we were doing a treasure map party, and... I forget why I was asked to change jobs. I think it was because the person who was healing had to call it a night, and if we were down to just 4 people they wanted the safety of having someone who could heal/rez. And I was like "Sure, but give me a sec to teleport back to the Crystarium." "Oh, no, you don't need to grab more maps off the market yet."

I had to explain that wasn't the reason. See, I'd been SCH most recently for healing something, meaning all the gear was glamoured with my SCH glamour plate. I didn't want to play SCH for maps that night... but if I played WHM or AST I would've been in the wrong glamour for that job! So I needed to go to a hub (where glamour plates would apply) in order to swap jobs.

(I got lightly mocked for this... and then the others admitted that, okay, yeah, they'd probably do the same.)

So.....this morning I was in queue for normal raid roulette. While I was waiting, one of my cats decided to have a brief rampage, and managed to get caught on the USB cables connecting my mouse and keyboard to my PS4 and knocked them over. Picked them up, but before I could do anything else, the queue popped.

So I load into Alexander Prime. And then I try to move to dodge Sacrament, and.....wait, why am I walking instead of running? Why am I dead?

Get raised, try moving some more....still just walking?

Apparently when the keyboard fell, they hit a button that toggles auto-run to auto-walk. Being primarily a controller player (I keep a keyboard connected in case I have to communicate, but I don't play on it), I didn't even know there was a key that did that. Whoops.

Barbie "farm" parties have been such a treat.
Normally right after release, Ex PF quality is pretty good. You get the raid addicts that jump at the chance to beat something into submission and are good at it for a couple of weeks but after 4-6 weeks it starts to decline. Not with Ex 4.

Saw a party with a healer slot open, AST already in and I hopped in on SGE.
The whole party kept dying left and right before tangles 2, nevermind reaching (or surviving) the tumults. So when we finally got past tangles 2 (farm party btw), I noticed that I had to EProg a lot in additional to all my oGCDs. Mitigation was non-existent as usual in PF but something else was off.
Yep, AST sitting proudly at 1k dps and healing less than 1/3 of what I healed. we ended up disbanding after reaching enrage with 25% left.

Next party, I joined on DNC.
I've noticed an alarming lack of certain SGE buff icons I'd recognize everywhere and also that healing was kinda slow while I frequently saw GCD heals from the WHM.
Tangles 2, was in a puddle with someone who, for some reason constantly stuck to me no matter which side I went to. One puddle from them got dropped in front of me, my own puddle dropped, I tried to dodge both while dodging the circle aoe but made the wrong decision and got nuked.
No problem because enum was on me so nobody else died. Everyone else was perfectly fine and fairly healthy because the WHM snuck in some Medica II.
I saw the SGE using Swift, run around for a bit and do nothing, Swift ran out, more running around, more doing nothing, used a Prognosis, more running around and doing nothing and ultimately the party died to Tumults. And then came the best part: the WAR asked what happened there and SGE said "one death from the dps caused all this chaos".
Oh no, mate. You're not getting away with trying to blame me for being incapable of pushing buttons.
So I asked if he seriously intends to blame my death (which was partly my fault, that I know) for not healing at all during tumults.
The WAR just wrote "ouch :p", one dps left with "farm party btw ..." and the SGE party leader ended up disbanding.

So I thought I'd dig out my naughty tool and take a look.
Well, well. 0 Pneuma, 0 Panhaima, 2 Kera, 1 Physis II and some Prognosis with 60% overheal, their only actions from the end of tangles 2 to end of tumult were indeed Swift and a single Prognosis. And below 50% uptime the whole time. Yes, I'm sure a DNC dying during tangles 2 was the problem. If they get paralyzed with fear and are incapable of pushing heal buttons the moment someone died even if it had no consequences for anyone else, maybe play another role.

And this went on for about 6h with one party worse than the last.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

So.....this morning I was in queue for normal raid roulette. While I was waiting, one of my cats decided to have a brief rampage, and managed to get caught on the USB cables connecting my mouse and keyboard to my PS4 and knocked them over. Picked them up, but before I could do anything else, the queue popped.

So I load into Alexander Prime. And then I try to move to dodge Sacrament, and.....wait, why am I walking instead of running? Why am I dead?

Get raised, try moving some more....still just walking?

Apparently when the keyboard fell, they hit a button that toggles auto-run to auto-walk. Being primarily a controller player (I keep a keyboard connected in case I have to communicate, but I don't play on it), I didn't even know there was a key that did that. Whoops.

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First time I dropped my keyboard and that happened made an interesting Titan EX...took me a few minutes and asking people to finally get it fixed. Most people had chalked it up to me being a Dragoon back then.

To the Troia group I met in Expert Roulette as a SCH, that was the fastest and chillest run ever.
Only used 1 Lustrate to slightly give some hp and just to roll Aetherwave in last pull, it was silly for me but hey enjoyable

This week started off pretty strong: several more Castrum Meridianums in Mentor Scenario Roulette, a single-pull Hydaelyn backfill that took about 13 minutes because someone disconnected and two others spent most of the fight unconscious, and 50 minutes in P7N across two attempts because I was courteous enough to quickly pass on several gear pieces, causing everyone else to get one. Course, it didn't help that all my rolls were a few digits below the 1-2 other rollers on each piece, nor was it clear why a backfill prompt during the second queue instantly vanished due to a mysterious withdraw, forcing me to wait several more minutes.

I've yet to even see a wipe in the other three normal raids. I'm already skipping Unreal so it'd suck to have to pass on that too, but oh well.

Another PF tale, but a good one this time!

Huge lovely shoutout to the Diamond Ex group I was in last night. All of them were awesome--super nice and funny and good teammates. Virtually no deaths (except the one tank who just...walked off the deck? and then explained in chat that his cat walked on his keyboard :D), consistently skipping Auri Arts, and we settled in at about 3:40 clears. Everyone got their gwibs (and quite a few mats, too!) and most importantly, had a ton of fun doing it.

I've been grinding a lot of EX mounts in PF recently, and this was the smoothest and most enjoyable farm in a long time. Sometimes it's fun to teach newbies a fight, and sometimes chaos runs scratch my monkey brain, but sometimes it's even better to be part of well-oiled machine.

I'm really glad we all ended up on each other's friends list by the end of the night, and I hope to play with them again sometime.

I died. The party then proceeded to vote-kick my rotting corse outta the gungeon. The End, Fin.

Three cheers for democracy~

Had an intersting Void Ark run a few hours ago.
We somehow managed to almost fail the second boss by charging the „tree“ in the middle to 100%, which results it to spam roomwides every 3-4? seconds. (can this be considered as an enrage?)
Even more fun was that we actually lost to the final boss because, once it splits into 3, the mobs weren’t seperated resulting in our death once it reformed into 1 again.
I think this is the first time since HW that I saw it happen lol.

Rest of the party bit the dust on the second boss of Dead Ends. I proceeded to solo it because WAR is fair and balanced. Got vote kicked as soon as combat ended. Got a nasty tell afterward calling me rude (and a few other words that'll get me banned if I post them on the forums) for ruining the fight by not giving people the chance to learn it. Kek.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Rest of the party bit the dust on the second boss of Dead Ends. I proceeded to solo it because WAR is fair and balanced. Got vote kicked as soon as combat ended. Got a nasty tell afterward calling me rude (and a few other words that'll get me banned if I post them on the forums) for ruining the fight by not giving people the chance to learn it. Kek.

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That's not a reaction I've ever seen to this sort of thing. Most groups are usually cheering the person left standing on.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Rest of the party bit the dust on the second boss of Dead Ends. I proceeded to solo it because WAR is fair and balanced. Got vote kicked as soon as combat ended. Got a nasty tell afterward calling me rude (and a few other words that'll get me banned if I post them on the forums) for ruining the fight by not giving people the chance to learn it. Kek.

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Depends how long you were soloing it for. If it was like 10% ish or less, than yeah that’s fine. If everyone wiped to a mech halfway in and you spent 30 minutes soloing it, than yeah you were a douche.

I returned to Paradigm's Breach on PLD. Best move I could've made. My group was total garbage with the exception of one red mage who had their hands full. Someone initiated a vote abandon twice during the raid. :p (I'm guessing it was someone in my group) DRG blew LB3 on the final boss. I said "I hope yall don't need that"... barely a minute later. 6 people down. :D

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Originally Posted by SleepyHomieAria

Depends how long you were soloing it for. If it was like 10% ish or less, than yeah that’s fine. If everyone wiped to a mech halfway in and you spent 30 minutes soloing it, than yeah you were a douche.

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3-4 minutes soloing it. T'was only a dungeon boss. Judging by their reactions and the fact they were on the same server and in the same FC, I figure we can make some suppositions here. The healer of the bunch was wearing the BK crown and Ultimate Legend title, and they had a couple pieces of savage gear from the previous tier. I know for a fact it was the first time in there for at least one of them. Best guess? The two new guys were recruit-a-friended in by the healer and riding healer queues through all the story stuff.

They were really hyper-focused on the missed "learning opportunity." I figure it's pretty safe to assume that was the core issue.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

3-4 minutes soloing it.

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It sounds like they were rude about it, but I'll admit I think that's quite a bit longer than I would've pushed it solo'ing. I mean, that's longer than the entire boss fight might take, normally; it would have arguably been faster to reset and let them take another try.

Generally, if it's going to take more than about 30 more seconds to solo down a boss, I'd choose the reset and let others back into the fight; the exception being if the people on the ground are cheering on the attempt and clearly game for me to keep going.

Full disclosure: I decided it wasn't worth it. They all took everything straight to the face right out of the gate, including the healer. The two new guys had a valid excuse, but the healer mentor/Ultimate Legend title holder (who I am convinced bought it) did not. If they died outright once, it would just happen again. And the DPS, try as they might, wouldn't have survived without the healer. Stacks were collected like Pokemon.

Let's vent about 2.0?

Well, I remember one time - I was playing SCH - and I qued into DF and got Aurum Vale.

...that's the story.
Because, seriously. 2.X. Aurum Vale. On SCH.

I got a legit disingenuous "sorry guyz my controller died" in an Ex3 farm.

I dunno they seemed to be perfectly capable of running to the middle for despair unforgotten and wiping 5/8 of the party to me.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

I got a legit disingenuous "sorry guyz my controller died" in an Ex3 farm.

I dunno they seemed to be perfectly capable of running to the middle for despair unforgotten and wiping 5/8 of the party to me.

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When a controller dies on pc while you're moving, the game takes the last movement input and just keeps doing it. I dunno if that's what happened but that's happened to me more than once.

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Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell

When a controller dies on pc while you're moving, the game takes the last movement input and just keeps doing it. I dunno if that's what happened but that's happened to me more than once.

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It's happened to me a few times as well (on a ps5 so it's not just the pc it does it too) and usually I'm going fuck fuck fuck.. while running to grab my second controller lol

I do admit that it is a thing that can happen. Happened to me a little bit on a prior PC. That can happen (namely when wired in my case) if there is an issue with the wire itself or perhaps the USB controller/usb charging. I circumvented that issue playing wirelessly. It didn't happen every minute though.

The reason I wasn't really buying it is how often they were messing up. They clearly ran to the middle, stopped, then ran out when they noticed they had a spread marker. They were otherwise at their clock spot and did not need to move.

Ran The Dead Ends with a healer who stood in just about every AOE. I was able to revive them most of the time, except when I would die due to not getting healed. We wiped on the first boss at least four times. Nearly wiped on the last (only the tank was alive, but they were able to beat the boss). I was hoping the bird would drop after all that, but it didn't. The orchestrion roll dropped, but I rolled a 4 on it.

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Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell

When a controller dies on pc while you're moving, the game takes the last movement input and just keeps doing it. I dunno if that's what happened but that's happened to me more than once.

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It does the same thing if you use mouse for movement. Had a mouse die on me mid-pull. Luckily for me, the malfunction caused my character to avoid every single AoE being thrown out long enough for me to solve the problem.

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Originally Posted by SpiritTamer

Ran The Dead Ends with a healer who stood in just about every AOE. I was able to revive them most of the time, except when I would die due to not getting healed. We wiped on the first boss at least four times. Nearly wiped on the last (only the tank was alive, but they were able to beat the boss). I was hoping the bird would drop after all that, but it didn't. The orchestrion roll dropped, but I rolled a 4 on it.

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Should probably be glad it didn't drop. There's some kind of cosmic law in place stating whoever screws up the most in a run will always be the one to win the rare pet/mount at the end. You'd have watched the floor aficionado walk out of there with it.

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

Generally, if it's going to take more than about 30 more seconds to solo down a boss, I'd choose the reset and let others back into the fight; the exception being if the people on the ground are cheering on the attempt and clearly game for me to keep going.

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The people I play with and I always cheer on someone soloing a boss after we screw the pooch.
It's like watching Baryshnikov dance, and they earned the right to do it if they want to.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

I got a legit disingenuous "sorry guyz my controller died" in an Ex3 farm.

I dunno they seemed to be perfectly capable of running to the middle for despair unforgotten and wiping 5/8 of the party to me.

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This is why mine is never wireless.

Solo heal on Barb EX is a trap :rolleyes: DPS go all over the place filling the healer gap on stack mechs.

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Originally Posted by Imora

This is why mine is never wireless.

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Now if only wired controllers didn't disconnect all the time too.

Queued in for Leveling roulette with my Lala alt, got Totorak with a sprout Conjurer and I was playing Warrior. Tried single pulling the first two groups to see if healer can keep up. DPS was good but I didn't get any heals from the healer which got me thinking oh maybe healer thinks I can live with it. 2nd mob nope, 1st boss nope, not a single Cure given to my poor Lala. I pulled the Pudding group wall to wall and lo and behold healer didn't even heal me and I died. I was waiting to be Raised but healer just stood there. I was like "Raise"? in auto-translate since I play in a JP DC. Nope.

I respawned, ran back to them to continue. I checked his search info and saw he has JP language and has a 76 SCH/SMN. Monk asked in chat if healer was a "foreigner" (in Japanese so healer as a JP player would've understood that). Survived 2nd boss with a sliver of health on me. I mentioned in chat "Heal, Please assist" then "Cure, Please use it, Conjurer"<se.9> to ping and then he started spamming heal ON HIMSELF. So the Monk was like "Don't you know the target?(;'∀')" (at this point even he was assuming the healer was on controller and didn't know how to shuffle target in the party) so I was like "Cure, Warrior" then /me emote. Then he was able to go heal everyone at the party. Eventually we cleared the final boss without wiping and me not dying but it was painful man. It makes me regret I don't have my Bloodwhetting yet at that level. Q.Q

Backfilled a Thornmarch EX that ended about 30 seconds later before getting thrown into a fresh one with 6 new people and 1 mentor, none of whom knowing what to do. This roulette sure knows how to be mischievous.

Great Hunt EX (yet again). 3 mentors and sprout healer (yet again). Said healer has cleared "like 6x" but didn't really know any of the mechanics (even suggesting to go on the back) and still chose to queue through DF regardless. Tank (pronouns in bio) says "shut up" upon me innocuously questioning why healer would queue for the fight instead of running it unsynced or using PF. BLM says nothing the entire time, dies a few times without accepting returns, and uses LB on Rathalos while he's flying. Despite the first phase of this fight being easier than the second, it (yet again) has several more wipes than the latter (after tank claimed "99% of these runs take less than a few attempts"). Guess he's had better luck, albeit not this one time.

Very next queue is another Great Hunt EX with the same healer. Noped out of that one.

IDK why Crystal healers do this to themselves. I did this fight via PF just like everyone else, and now I have about 20 spare EX scales.

https://i.ibb.co/4mnS37Z/mentor.png

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Great Hunt EX (yet again). 3 mentors and sprout healer (yet again). Said healer has cleared "like 6x" but didn't really know any of the mechanics (even suggesting to go on the back) and still chose to queue through DF regardless. Tank (pronouns in bio) says "shut up" upon me innocuously questioning why healer would queue for the fight instead of running it unsynced or using PF. BLM says nothing the entire time, dies a few times without accepting returns, and uses LB on Rathalos while he's flying. Despite the first phase of this fight being easier than the second, it (yet again) has several more wipes than the latter (after tank claimed "99% of these runs take less than a few attempts"). Guess he's had better luck, albeit not this one time.

Very next queue is another Great Hunt EX with the same healer. Noped out of that one.

IDK why Crystal healers do this to themselves. I did this fight via PF just like everyone else, and now I have about 20 spare EX scales.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...484/mentor.png

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Yeah, I abandoned Mentor roulette a long time ago. I don't even bother to unlock it, even when the requirements change. A full instance timer of wiping to Thordan Ex 10 seconds in repeatedly was all it took to make me decide that it is not worth my time. I'll sometimes hop around random groups in the PF and help out (without my crown on, haven't worn it for a long time now), or on rare occasion enter my server's NN. I'm still doing my part, even if people aren't aware that I'm a mentor.