Yoshi P - Your next live letter, DT msq and the damage to the brand

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

Yeah, let's act as if it was the majority of critics done to dawntrail. I don't know where you live, but the vast majority critics pointed the problems of dawntrail. Like Wuk Lamat overshadowing everyone to a never seen before point in FFXIV, creating a sense of suffocation with the character, even with some people that liked the character, or the fact her development is inconsistent (she seem to grow in the middle segment to return to her starting point in the last segment). Or all the incoherences pointed in the "tribes" stories.

But yeah, let's pretend the majority of people are 5 years old throwing a tantrum.

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Criticism isn't the problem, it's the rhetoric being used. People don't just say they don't like the main character, it's "atrocious writing" that will "damage the brand" and is "a return to 1.0".

Maybe it's not people's fault. That's the kind of language they're being bombarded with every day by mass media. But it still rubs me the wrong way.

All of his gamescom interviews totally avoided the current story from what i've seen, the focus was on arcadion and specific characters like Wuk evu, Bakool Ja Ja, i've only seen 2 articles so far though:

https://www.thegamer.com/final-fanta...siting-future/
https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...hida-interview


Also mentions multiple universes and going back to stormblood areas as a shogun to fight in the war.

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Originally Posted by IvoryHawk

All of his gamescom interviews totally avoided the current story from what i've seen, the focus was on arcadion and specific characters like Wuk evu, Bakool Ja Ja, i've only seen 2 articles so far though:

https://www.thegamer.com/final-fanta...siting-future/
https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...hida-interview


Also mentions multiple universes and going back to stormblood areas as a shogun to fight in the war.

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They're also jumping into the multiverse wagon? Dear God no...

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Originally Posted by Aldath

They're also jumping into the multiverse wagon? Dear God no...

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Well, I expected us to go to more Reflections so that's probably what he meant by 'other universes'.

The Shogun idea seems WAY out of left field, I would like to revisit Stormblood areas and see how they are doing. (and potentially seeing our friend Goesetsu again)

Time Travel? Aww hell naw. That shit never end well.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...uHS/giphy.webp

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Originally Posted by IvoryHawk

All of his gamescom interviews totally avoided the current story from what i've seen, the focus was on arcadion and specific characters like Wuk evu, Bakool Ja Ja, i've only seen 2 articles so far though:

https://www.thegamer.com/final-fanta...siting-future/
https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...hida-interview


Also mentions multiple universes and going back to stormblood areas as a shogun to fight in the war.

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“We want the players not just to read the story as it were, but to experience the story as a game,” Yoshida says. “When we thought about the concept of searching for the City of Gold, we thought about how we could express that within the story.
Yeah they kinda dropped the ball here.

I like the multiverse brainstorming. Maybe then the whole "the WoL is too strong and can't be challenged anymore" bullshit stops because I think it is beginning to hurt discussions going forward. It is the single most argument I read of people liking DT's story. I just don't buy it because there are so many ways to challenge us.
A multiverse could give us interesting things like a world without calamities, a world fully rejoined by the ascians or even an alternate version of the WoL.
We also kinda had a "multiverse" approach with the savage and ultimate raids already if we stretch the argument.

I never got the aversion to that concept. It's all a matter of how it is handled.

It's really interesting that in no single interview Wuk Lamat or the handling of the WoL in DT is mentioned. That gives me hope that they got the memo.

All in all I find the interviews really interesting. From a DT review perspective as well as from a looking into the future point of view.

Possible interview spoiler:

Did Yoshi-p just give away that Living Memory is on the Ninth?

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

I like the multiverse brainstorming. Maybe then the whole "the WoL is too strong and can't be challenged anymore" bullshit stops because I think it is beginning to hurt discussions going forward. It is the single most argument I read of people liking DT's story. I just don't buy it because there are so many ways to challenge us.

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They already have a perfectly good built-in explanation for having our power fluctuate like crazy. Dynamis. We can be strong enough to beat Nidhogg one moment, then lose to Zenos the next. In terms of pure story telling, it's pretty bad, but as a plot device to keep the stakes of the game in check, it's a really good idea.

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Originally Posted by GartredZW

They already have a perfectly good built-in explanation for having our power fluctuate like crazy. Dynamis. We can be strong enough to beat Nidhogg one moment, then lose to Zenos the next. In terms of pure story telling, it's pretty bad, but as a plot device to keep the stakes of the game in check, it's a really good idea.

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The thing about dynamis is, that it is limitless without downsides. It wasn't established by what it is triggerd, or even why the power of good is stronger than bad dynamis.
Both are triggered by emotions it seems, but why is one superior to the other?
In one expansion we fight demigods in the morning, and in the other the bringer of death in the evening. While in others we lose to goons for whatever reason.

Why do we even need to let a villain build up power if we can just slay them mid-expansion thanks to dynamis?
Why even let characters go through some growth if we can ask them to just believe in themselves and they become stronger than anyone around them thanks to dynamis?

IMO, dynamis is a worse narrative tool than a full on reset of our power level.

Wuk Lamat is just terrible, the voice actor sounds awful it comes across like a guy voicing a female character badly. The writing isn't great, the character development isn't good, but the voice just makes me want to skip cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by dspguy

The playerbase is in the millions. The complaints are in the thousands. And, generally speaking, people commonly rant and complain, but don't praise. Like others have said... "just look at the forums and the active threads."

Exactly. Do just that. Then consider maybe 1 in a 1000 have issues. Maybe even 1 in 100. If 99 of my customers are happy and 1 isn't, I'm doing a great job.

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You're acting like the people complaining are low, but Steam has the game at 33/100 rating. 33% of the last 500 reviews are positive, the score is "overwhelmingly negative". Of "all time" reviews for dawntrail 55% are positive. Thats not review bombing. Thats the majority.