Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

24 man raid... noob tanks not picking up adds... I had to tank them all and constantly healing myself. Can't stop the threats train now...

Another story, warrior and paladin think they are pure melee dps class. Coming from MOBA, Skyrim like experiences... They didn't know they are tank class.... *cough* meatshield.

Lately I keep getting people who seem to be oblivious to the Wolfsbane adds during the Cerbus fight. Of course, I'm the prime target of aggro for these things.

This one time, in WoD, where the alliances somehow thought that the best MT for last boss was the tank who had two scholars on his team.... Instead of, you know, one of the two tanks who had WHM Protect on.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Man, Eos tanks like a champ. When I was farming light on SCH, I'd use her to tank the adds in Garuda HM. Fey Illumination > Whispering Dawn > Place her across the room, keep Sustain up and heal her if needed.

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Yeah ^^; I remember one time back when I was still in below i90 gear and was running WP... Got to the end of one of the long rushes where you get a stalker chasing you halfway through, and we didn't manage to kill all the mobs and open the door before it showed up to kill us. And Eos, heroine that she is, stepped in and tanked the stalker while we killed the mobs and escaped. Needless to say, she got my commendation for that run :p (We were fully pre-formed, btw.)

Anytime I see 4 NINs in anything........

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

This one time, in WoD, where the alliances somehow thought that the best MT for last boss was the tank who had two scholars on his team.... Instead of, you know, one of the two tanks who had WHM Protect on.

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Pfft. If that posed any difficulty at all, it's because either the tank or the SCHs were bad. Should have been easy street with 2 SCHs and their accompanying healing zoo.

Other healer refuses to stack regens with me in Levi ex >>

I die because the linked water orbs attach to me and explode after the other healer falls off the boat. OT: "think you can do a better job of keeping me alive?" *throws self out window.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

Pfft. If that posed any difficulty at all, it's because either the tank or the SCHs were bad. Should have been easy street with 2 SCHs and their accompanying healing zoo.

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Should have been; wasn't. Not sure about his gear or anything, but I did notice he lost about 2/3 to 3/4 of his life with each it ;_; He did survive and all, but I'm suspecting he had help from more than his own healers -- I noticed more than one regen on him now and then.

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

Should have been; wasn't. Not sure about his gear or anything, but I did notice he lost about 2/3 to 3/4 of his life with each it ;_; He did survive and all, but I'm suspecting he had help from more than his own healers -- I noticed more than one regen on him now and then.

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mt should always have 1 regen for every whm alive
no excuse not to

So, not really as much a "horror" story as a "WTF" story. Running ST for the weekly (why do I still subject myself to this torture?), and I end up in a group with 3 NINs, a BLM, and a Bard. Hilariously enough, the BARD ends up eating the most avoidable damage for some odd reason, and standing waaaaayyyy off in his own spot so that I can't reach him to heal his ass.

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Originally Posted by Raji_Lev

ilariously enough, the BARD ends up eating the most avoidable damage for some odd reason, and standing waaaaayyyy off in his own spot so that I can't reach him to heal his ass.

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And than he blamed you because you didn't heal him? :D
(would be even more hilarious :P )

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Originally Posted by Arg0n

And than he blamed you because you didn't heal him? :D

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Funnily and surprisingly enough, no - but then, nobody in my alliance really said anything other than the standard "Hello! / Thanks for run" (admittedly, myself included). I just found it amusing (in that "did I just get transported to Bizarro-land?" sort of way) that in a group with three NINs, it was the Bard that gave me the most healing-related headaches.

Few nights back in World of Darkness, our tank said the WHM in our party that she was annoying and to shut up because she was trying to tell him how not to die to the mechanics of the very first boss (doom cleansing). It didn’t help that people I other parties were dying because they didn’t know the fight mechanics.

So I went on strike and refused to heal him. I released Eos and the other healer followed suit. We tried to kick him but he’d rush in and engage the enemies so the vote would be nulled but still got kicked once we made it to Cloud of Darkness. He did put up a fight because he was a WAR, kept himself alive during trash floors. Healers in other parties raised him when he died during boss fights.

Just got done with a Halatali Hard run where a healer decided it was more important to chain cast Holy seven times in a row, even on single targets, than heal after the stuns start resisting. Sad to know that me popping Sentinel to avoid a quick death at the hands of Venomous Bite's high damage will help her take pride in the fact that nobody died...

I'm at the point in my life where I don't even go into WoD as a WHM anymore. Sch is needed for all the raises the first and last boss are gonna need >_>

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Originally Posted by JonFarron

I'm at the point in my life where I don't even go into WoD as a WHM anymore. Sch is needed for all the raises the first and last boss are gonna need >_>

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If they die that much, they can stay on the floor. I seriously won't chain rez people who've clearly had the opportunity to learn the fights (or have been outright told what to do) and insist on dying, especially since their lowered max HP from rez sickness makes for a tragicomic snowball effect.

*watches ninja die for the third time from Mortal Gaze*
*blows Swiftcast to refresh Shadowflare instead of rezzing*

WHM random low yesterday: garuda
try 1 - nobody did feathers (or at least WAY too slow) so had to use holy on them - all well until tank eats frontal aoe in storm phase and goes down onehit, rest follows within seconds
try 2 - again nobody did feathers but i didnt had the time to use holy right - wipe on entering strom phase since all stones were down
party tells me to heal and not "go dps"... and kicks me

hope they got a real noob healer and wiped till timeout after that

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Originally Posted by deos

WHM random low yesterday: garuda
try 1 - nobody did feathers (or at least WAY too slow) so had to use holy on them - all well until tank eats frontal aoe in storm phase and goes down onehit, rest follows within seconds
try 2 - again nobody did feathers but i didnt had the time to use holy right - wipe on entering strom phase since all stones were down
party tells me to heal and not "go dps"... and kicks me

hope they got a real noob healer and wiped till timeout after that

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It's really depressing when you get kicked because people are brainless and the funny thing is they think you are in the wrong for having to do their job for them. It's like AV holy is just ridiculously good on those adds and if the Tank was in any way competent you'd have time to burn some adds easily.

This isn't my story, but I was part of this run yesterday.

Satasha NM, low level roulette. A WHM, BRD, MRD, and LNC (me).

I took a quick glance at the tank's HP...378.

I took a quick glance at my HP...459. Wondering to my self...."wat", I /checked the tank. To my (and probably the WHM's horror) the tank was wearing starter gear, and a level 10 weapon. I quickly told the party @ the tank "Might want to do something about that starter gear..." and the tank just walked up and body pulled the first mobs. You wouldn't believe how fast he was going down, one hit took a quarter of his health. BRD opens dps, and instantly pulls the first mob off the tank, while the healer takes the other one after a single heal. I decided to attack the second add since I knew I took less damage (I was in full foestrikers), and we got past the first pull.

The pulls kinda went on like that, except the BRD attacked what I was attacking cuz I was holding aggro (FYI, Straight Shot + Internal Release + Heavy Thrust > Impulse Drive spam is OP) against him, while the tank was focusing on the one mob fighting for aggro with the healer. When we got a 3rd add, the healer tanked it or the BRD split dps with me.

So we got to the first boss, and well...I tanked it. Magic is the bane of DRGs, so I dropped soon before the boss died. We discussed a little bit here, and the other two (not the tank) also seemed to be at a loss with what we can do. So we carried on to the second boss, which I also tanked (and didn't die).

Then there's the 4 pull right before. Our tank runs straight in as usual, and gets instagibbed in 4 attacks. We proceeded to 3 man the entire pull, with me spell dodging the two thunder casters and letting the WHM handle himself.

The rest was pretty uneventful, the BRD had tanked the main boss.

At least I hit level 20. The WHM did say it was fun though. Frankly, I would have as well considering I'd be watching everyone health, and not just the tanks.

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Originally Posted by Sumimi

Satasha NM - Undergeared tank

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I had something similar happen when I was still fresh on my CNJ the tank kept dropping fast and I didn't know what was wrong the SMN in the party looked at their gear and noticed they where very undergeared and mentioned that they should get dungeon level appropriate gear to which the tank replied thats what dungeons are for. We go to the next few pulls and the tank is not using Sheild Lob the SMN mentions that they should use it to which they replied they didn't do the lvl 15 GLA quest to get it yet. We get to the first miniboss the SMN switched to Titan egi and took care holding hate after killing it the SMN left the party followed by the tank. Though when the replacements came it went smooth.

Dungeon starts. I skip cutscene. "Johnny Paladin" did not. I SS the 3 remaining party members, and wait for Johnny for protect. DUNGEON COMMENCED!, big letters on the screen. Tank SPRINTS away from the party while I try, fruitlessly, to throw him a Protect. Johnny starts running deep into the dungeon, aggroing one, two, three groups. On the fourth group, he stops. AoEs begin to fly.

Me? I try to keep my cool, and go: Divine Seal, Presence of Mind, Potion of Mind, OMFG JOHNNY IS DYING. Benediction. Spam Cure 2. NOT WORKING, net HP gain still negative. If I cast Protect, the healing downtime will kill johnny. The player is praying while hitting the Cure 2 keybind 350 times per second. Not enough, Johnny is dead a few seconds after Divine Seal wears off. Swiftcast+Raise, almost instant. Johnny doesn't get up the ground. Message comes up in chat, blue as a clear sky:

Johnny Paladin: WTF, whm? u fukin noob!

The relentless mob of monsters hunts and obliterates each one of us, one after the other. My body reappears unharmed, however, at the start of the dungeon. And as I look upon the party list, where "Johnny Paladin" was supposed to be written, lies only an empty bar and a handful of glyphs, reading "???".

We never heard of Johnny again. Perhaps he met his final demise there, and is now living energy in the Aetheric realm. The Mother Crystal may know...

Editted -.-

Brayflox -.-

New FC mate needs to go in. Finger is still splinted and making things annoying (part of me wishes, at this point, that I'd always played on a controller), but whatever, I managed speed-run healing expert roulette as though nothing were different - no deaths, no real problems - this should be fine. It's only Bray. Right... RIGHT!?
*Twitch*
<insert chaos, DPS taking hits and no mp>

Do EX roulette in assumption that 'pffft it was Bray. Shit happens in Bray'.
<insert derp + anchag destroying fresh statue quicker than usual... but we complete, not too badly>
But, okay, I give up on healing today. Today is just not meant to be.

However, new FC mate needs Titan NM.
Okay cool, whatevs, Titan NM is easy and HM no longer gives me probs.
<insert one wipe, but completes>

Ffffff *Runs away, back to bard*

I hate off days

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Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

Dungeon starts. I skip cutscene. "Johnny Paladin" did not. I SS the 3 remaining party members, and wait for Johnny for protect. DUNGEON COMMENCED!, big letters on the screen. Tank SPRINTS away from the party while I try, fruitlessly, to throw him a Protect. Johnny starts running deep into the dungeon, aggroing one, two, three groups. On the fourth group, he stops. AoEs begin to fly.

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Ah the impatient charging Tank enemy of all Healers. But you did have a few options that you didn't seem to take probably because of the sheer panic of the Tank running off with no buffs and then pulling several mobs. You still had swiftcast because you used it to raise him so open with swiftcast and holy to stun absolutely everything, protect,regen,medica II then cure him to full, cleric stance holy,holy,shroud,holy,cleric stance off heal to full reapply regen if needed. Benediction is your nuclear option if you have nothing else on the table as an emergency burst heal and the Tank didn't already use his nuclear option in an invincibility buff.

These things can and do result in Tank death though they should probably learn to wait for buffs and for the party to be ready before charging off into the sunset to die in a blaze of glory but as the Healer you need to be ready for anything and adjust your tactics. The only thing that you can't do much with is the paper Tank who never uses any CD's or dodge mob AoE's effectively they just get shredded.

More a "wtf this is going to be bad!!" that turned out okay. People might complain that Tam Tara (and the other low level dungeons) are boring, but I welcome how forgiving they are.

Come in, see gladiator tank, check gear.. level 36 stuff? Wtf, why isn't it a paladin?? Well okay.. then watch as he sprints from mob to mob, facepulling, and rarely tossing flash. Even with that, I was able to stay in cleric the whole time with Eos healing (and pretty much everyone tanking).

I don't know if it was my party or another alliance, but during an ST run today, everyone ignored the Clockwork Squires and tried to burn the boss. We wiped 3 times and decided to eat the penalty. To top it off, nobody was new to the raid, which makes it even more infuriating.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I don't know if it was my party or another alliance, but during an ST run today, everyone ignored the Clockwork Squires and tried to burn the boss. We wiped 3 times and decided to eat the penalty. To top it off, nobody was new to the raid, which makes it even more infuriating.

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Wait, seriously? As in, during the phase where Glasya reflects all damage, everyone ignored it and continued to tunnel-vision on him, presumably not understanding why their own HP was dropping so fast? Holy crap, that had to have been downright excruciating. /em slides over a bottle of Healers' Coping Mechanism

It was a little of both; people trying to burn him and tanks not placing the Squires in the right spots for the jump pads. Seriously, just because we're rocking ilvl120 to 130 gear doesn't mean mechanics don't exist.

Ran WP (normal) earlier today and ran into a PLD who saw I was on SCH and decided to (1) cast Protect and (2) run off without me afterwards.

... well, this is going grand already.

Proceeds to basically tag a single mob out of a pack and keep running. Of course my Fairy heals him once and boom, aggro on my fairy. Ah well. It's only WP after all, this can't be THAT bad.

We get to the second part of the dungeon involving the oils and Tonberry Stalker maze. PLD pulls everything leading up to the to one device in the corner then promptly stops.

...while a Tonberry Stalker is still stabbing the face out of everyone. Aggro is going wild between everyone with Tonberry taking random pot shots at random people until we eventually, well, die. Kinda hard to keep up with all the damage to the entire party, especially after my Fairy dies (and then I die about 5 seconds later).

Respawn, tank just runs off without Protect and basically pulls the same thing. Unfortunately, we DO have to run back to that corner because we somehow killed the Tonberry's in that corner so we have to go grab the oils at that point. All the while Stalkers are stabbing at everyone (again).

Lock out the mobs on boss #2, destroy boss #2, tank just goes running without a care in the world through the entire hallway.

Yep, I guess I need to keep up better or something. Ah well.

Maybe the tank was a bot. I heard stories of bots going into duties to farm materials or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Sumimi

Satasha NM

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to confess, as i lvld my paladin this could have been my story. i'd hit lvl15, just made the classquest and queued for Satasha. after the 1st mobpack i wich was'nt able to keep aggro and got nearly 2hitted i realized that i had forgotten something rly important - getting some gear.

i offered the grp to kick me so i can quick grab some equipement and join again, or they would have got a proper tank in time. but they meant it will work and the lancer will tank.

as the healer and the lancer(and the 2nd DD wich i cannot remember anymore) did a good job we finished the dungeon without any wipes, but i was so embarrased over this noobfailure. i raan instant to the marketboard and geared up and repeated the dungeon, this time without any hardships for the group.

This is both a healing horror story and a healer complaint.
After seeing the comments here about keeping regen on the MT in World Of Darkness I started paying attention. I had a run tonight with 6 whm. The MT had only 1 regen on - mine.. and they weren't even in my party. >_<
Half the group didn't seem to know how to avoid Mortal Gaze.
The Jormangund were chewing on people.
The Wolfsbane stayed aggroed on me.
People kept dropping after their loot area. Half the group was replaced by the end .. fortunately by people who knew the fights better.
It was just a mess.

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Originally Posted by Sagittarian

Just referring

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Whenever I am at Angra Mainu I call myself "Raising machine" cant call it any other... I been though twice impressed by alliances that actually did dodge Mortal Gaze/Swapped red and white AOE.

And bout the Wolfsbanes... I even offtanked em once as scholar as the tank that was supposed to take em ported out (not sure if intentionally but he died pretty much at pull and then was out) and the tank of the belly team didnt care so I simply put all my sch dps on em to aggro and keep from other unprepared healers... the add team also didn't care to kill em so well generally we had the maintank on cerby I kept myself with Lustrates up our WHM spammed Cure 2 on maintank and me while dps made fun in Cerbys belly and our DPS killed the banes... actually great fun ^-^

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I don't know if it was my party or another alliance, but during an ST run today, everyone ignored the Clockwork Squires and tried to burn the boss. We wiped 3 times and decided to eat the penalty. To top it off, nobody was new to the raid, which makes it even more infuriating.

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Had an ST group earlier in the month that the majority decided ignoring all of Amon's ADDS (kum-kums, snakes) would be awesome. The ADDs and random pyrotechnics wiped the alliances easily. Kited a snake around the arena (on bard) for a while after turning back from a frog, since no one else was picking it up or healing (I hate having to end up in bard-circles, but I had no choice. Potion + second wind + featherfoot + shadow bind had all been used up >_> ...those wenches kinda hurt).... ended up dying right next to one of our party's healers after hovering in hopes of getting a lil' help. Rest of the raid joined me on the floor soon after.
It was a silly defeat.

I've been running everything as healer since I'm working on a Novus. WoD is easily the worst to heal. I had a run where the tank died from Mortal Gaze every time. Same run, the tank had the purple icon during the five headed dragon and ran off by himself instead of splitting the damage. Another run, my cohealer spent the run in cleric, tried to heal while in cleric, spammed cure 2, kept asking the bard for mana song (meanwhile I haven't even needed to pop Shrouds), and then was too busy arguing during the last fight to help with it in any fashion. I try now to run it with the majority of my party being members of my fc so that I know I can count on them.

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I've been running everything as healer since I'm working on a Novus. WoD is easily the worst to heal. I had a run where the tank died from Mortal Gaze every time. Same run, the tank had the purple icon during the five headed dragon and ran off by himself instead of splitting the damage.

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I'm not looking forward to healing that, soon >.>
Been running on bard a lot - I'll admit, I'll usually be good about Mortal Gaze and the color debuff swapping by camping the color border line - but every now and then I end up focusing on something stupid like, "*Stares at mp bars* ohshit healer MP *Sings song at wrong time. Doesn't notice Mortal gaze cast time, regardless focus target* Or moving to DPS the gate things and.... the debuff color border I need is a mile away and I don't make it in time - getting a second stack and face planting into the ground.
I've chased both a healer and a tank around the arena whom have that purple circle (to ensure they don't die) >_< Even worse when I have said circle and I have to chase fleeing people with it so I don't become a Raise nuisance =_=

I've been working on my Zodiac weapon the last couple days to get my Zeta out of the way so I can take it easy until the expansion.

As many healers from the Novus to Nexus days remember, light farming does weird things to people and changes how they behave in trials. I'm talking things like not waiting for protect and stoneskin and eating Garuda's first Minstrel Shriek. This post isn't really about that, even though less experienced healers can be overwhelmed and frustrated when people sidestep these protocols. I'm over that for the most part, having been one of the people who spammed a multitude of trials in order to get a Thyrus Nexus. I'm used to people ignoring a nail on Ifrit, eating that first shriek, or thinking they're invincible on titan when they're not. That's fine. I can deal with any of those, and some of them can even be good for speeding up the clear. When a problem does occur, I am generally not blamed when it doesn't go the way people think it should go.

Enter Gilgamesh: Battle on the Big Bridge, the bane of any random healer that decides to do it for light. Now for Gilgamesh, you have four groups of players who will be running it when a light window is open:

1) Ultra Pro Light Spammers: May or may not be hardcore raiders but are often in partial premades at the very least to maximize their light time. As soon as a new light window is discovered, these guys are all over it like a bear is over honey. If you see them anywhere else, they don't know what the new light window is. They generally employ special tactics whenever they can to speed up the death of whatever they are farming.

2) Veteran Light Spammers: People who solo light or go with a few friends, and may or may not pursue a light window depending on how much they care at the time. Like the Ultra Pros, these guys generally know all the ins and outs of the fights. The only real difference is they don't necessarily feel the need to go full throttle and spam as many of the gentle light window as humanly possible with an organized team. This is me, since I usually solo for my light as a random healer.

3) Casual Light Spammers: These guys may or may not know what the light window is, and may or may not queue with others. They probably know most of the mechanics of the trials, but they may make a few mistakes here or there. They may also be unaware of some of the tactics employed by Ultra Pro Light Spammers in order to maximize the amount of light gained in a window. These are the guys who always kill Ifrit's 4th nail. Veteran Light Spammers have no problem with them, but Ultra Pro Light Spammers might type out a snarky message when they "mess it up." Smart Ultra Pro Light Spammers will at least tell the Casual and Veteran Light Spammers to do their speed strat before it begins.

4) Normal Players: Regular joes who get sucked into the light run either because it's their first time running it, they want a primal weapon, or they got it for trial roulette. May be good at the fight or may be bad, but will generally not care about any special strategies that the Ultra Pro Light Spammers are using.

Now why did I go to the trouble of dividing people up? To highlight my frustrations as a random healer during the Gilgamesh light window. An explanation is in order, for those who don't understand the trick the "Ultra Pro Light Spammers" use. On the second part of Gilgamesh, after the two packs of adds, Gilgamesh starts to throw effects like confusion, multi-frog, multi-mini, and a combination on the raid. He will do these sequences one after the other, dependent on his HP level. Now, some Ultra Pro Light Spammers have a way of sidestepping the problem of frog and mini entirely: <Gilgamesh will not throw out additional status effects until confusion is removed from all party members.> Since confusion is cured by healing the target to full, it falls to the healers on whether this happens or not. If one person is left confused, the group can just burn him down without having to wait through frog and mini and run from chickens. If everyone is healed, the fight proceeds as normal.

Enter my situation tonight. In every other group, I would have someone complain to me about this. Sometimes I would heal the confusion, sometimes not. I started out leaving it up, but a Casual Light Spammer or Normal Player whined to me. "Heal to full, thanks." Yeah, fine, I did it. Group takes all the side effects, we win, whatever. Several clears go by where I cure it and either nobody cares or they silently hate me. Eventually, a couple Ultra Pro Light Spammers rant at me. "This wouldn't have happened if you had left the confusion on." "Don't Press Cure." Okay, I know. But last time I let this happen, a Normal Player whined at me. As if to reinforce this, on my next and final clear, I left confusion on and the guy complains about not being cleansed. So I heal him, and the entire raid turns into frogs. I probably had about 6 people wanting to kill me at the point, assuming they knew which healer did it.

I just couldn't win. I ended the light window early and did an expert roulette with some friends instead, seeing as the world at large kept harassing me about the confusion buff one way or the other. I'm not a mind reader. I even started asking before each run if I should leave confuse up or not, but that got annoying fast because most groups would just ignore me in their bid to spam light as fast as possible. If I see another Gilgamesh light window, I'll just spam Garuda or go run dungeons/CT instead. It isn't worth the aggravation of getting snide remarks from strangers every other clear, no matter what I decide to do by default.

On the positive end, I did get the Gilgamesh & Endiku card in the process.

/giantrantover

Mayhaps you should pick a method and stick to your guns?
If you choose not to heal the confusion victims and some uninformed bloke whine at you, perhaps explain in 1 sentence?
"If I do not cleanse your Confusion, Greg will not perform any more skills and will just normal attack till he dies"

Remember the old story "A man, a boy, and a Donkey"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_mil...and_the_donkey

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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Mayhaps you should pick a method and stick to your guns?
If you choose not to heal the confusion victims and some uninformed bloke whine at you, perhaps explain in 1 sentence?
"If I do not cleanse your Confusion, Greg will not perform any more skills and will just normal attack till he dies"

Remember the old story "A man, a boy, and a Donkey"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_mil...and_the_donkey

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I understand, believe me I do. I appreciate your effort to help me, and I'm not being sarcastic. But I can't think of another situation where this crops up in content that is spammed for light, where you have to pick a position and then deal with constant nagging from whichever side you don't please. I don't think I'm going to run into this problem again, though, seeing as I am almost finished. I think I am currently on the Archer.

Yup don't think there's another "A strategy vs B strategy" instance for healers other than Big Bridge anymore. ("A Strat vs B Strat" is more often a tank headache :P).

Congratulations on your would be Zeta!!

I have a RL friend who is terribad and has no idea how to play their healers(has both). I get stalked when I log in, he always want to do a raid. When he goes alone he often gets kicked. We go, he dies immediately and more than half the time on a boss he says "oops, I said yes and am back at the starting point" and he say "your uber and can heal it alone". I can do it but it is way more stressful than necessary, I am being used. When I finally get sick of it....(soon. I will will probably lose a friend over it...Really sucks. When do 4 mans it has to all friends and I have to role as my healer in cleric stance as dps so I can rez him 10-20 times a run.