Yoshi P talks about Warriors- from Producer Letter Live @ TGS

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Originally Posted by Amyas

Ah, I see, you just want to take the path of least resistance. There's nothing wrong with that. But don't down other people that want to take on the challenge. I have pld and war to 50, so far the only difference is less damage and more mitigation with less buttons to press, therefore to me, pld is easy mode tanking, war is hardmode. I really hope they don't change a thing, for the sake of all future Warriors.

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Your enthusiasm is great and choosing the hard option rather taking the easy one is commendable.

But because you choose to do this you are also making yourself more of a burden for the rest of your party.

I've done BC turn 1 - 5 as a warrior, then i did it as a paladin. Let me tell you that there is a substantial difference playing the two.

You say War is hardmode, but how do you play better when you just take more damage?

But i agree War is hardmode, for the party, if anything playing a warrior will increase the skills of your healers

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Originally Posted by Awake

I'm sorry but there is nothing hard about warriors...nothing at all.Unless you mean that it's harder for the healers to keep you up, then yes warriors are way hardcore;)

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Compared to Pld? Yeah, its much easier to do pld's single rotation while using 'Oh sh**' buttons appropriately compared to using war's and their cross class skills just to stay alive.

And the title of most disgusting, worthless, fallacy-abusing poster of the day goes to Amyas.

This forum is so full of terrible individuals. I can't believe the lengths some people will go to in order to try and prevent a "rival" class from getting buffed and/or simply hammering others over the head with their unhealthy, narcissistic egos.

"I am so great, I'm just the best in the whole world, let me see if I can get people on the internet to support this delusion! Preferably by twisting every single thing they say into some variation of how bad they are and how much better I am. That'll make people think I'm awesome."

Going to a video game forum and telling everybody that they're bad at the game does not somehow elevate you, nor does it impress anybody. I'm starting to get a sore neck from constantly having to shake my head in disbelief over the sheer number of people on this forum whose sole contribution is flawed arguments for why warriors should remain underpowered so that paladins can stay the top dawg. Almost always propagated by paladin players, strangely enough.

Nobody has ever been able to provide a valid, intelligent argument for why one tank class should be vastly superior to the other. I derive immense amusement from seeing daily claims of every warrior in the entire world simply being bad at the game and tens of thousands of players having failed to discover the secret to playing the class correctly. So utterly ridiculous. I can't believe people can bring themselves to voluntarily expose their stupidity in public like that.

There are three groups on this forum: paladins who don't want competition for the main tank role, people who don't care but think they sound awesome when they go "well my warrior is awesome, you're just not as good as me," and then people who know better and have provided actual data, arguments and test results that universally prove the same thing.

You're missinterpreting poor design with challenging game play.
There is absolutely nothing hard in playing WAR, you're just hindering your group on every decent content.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

The devs themselves has said it takes a higher level of skill to play war.

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and devs can be wrong.

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I really hope they don't change a thing, for the sake of all future Warriors.

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i hope you all like ifrit garuda amdapor keep and wanderer's palace

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Originally Posted by Wangstrong

And the title of most disgusting, fallacy-abusing, worthless poster of the day goes to Amyas.

This forum is so full of terrible individuals. I can't believe the lengths some people will go to in order to try and prevent a "rival" class from getting buffed and/or simply hammering others over the head with their unhealthy, narcissistic egos.

Going to a video game forum and telling everybody that they're bad at the game does not somehow elevate you, nor does it impress anybody.

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I'm sorry you feel that way, but I stand behind my opinion that War is fine as is, as long as the person behind it and their group is up to par. :(

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Originally Posted by Wangstrong

"I am so great, I'm just the best in the whole world, let me see if I can get people on the internet to confirm this delusion! Preferably by twisting every single thing they say into some variation of how bad they are and how much better I am. That'll make people think I'm awesome."

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the best part is that they havent done any endgame yet

and whenever you bring this up, you get accused of poopsocking to endgame

whatever that means

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Originally Posted by Delorean

the best part is that they havent done any endgame yet

and whenever you bring this up, you get accused of poopsocking to endgame

whatever that means

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The implication is that you stayed at your PC for prolonged period of time and took zero bathroom breaks (hence you poop in a sock to not cause a mess). Not like getting a job to 50 takes a week at most even playing only 2-3 hours per day.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

Ah, I see, you just want to take the path of least resistance. There's nothing wrong with that. But don't down other people that want to take on the challenge. I have pld and war to 50, so far the only difference is less damage and more mitigation with less buttons to press, therefore to me, pld is easymode tanking, war is hardmode. I really hope they don't change a thing, for the sake of all future Warriors.

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To take on the challenge is to play a healer healing a warrior in an end game setting (BCoB), and is not about you executing a so called 'hard' rotation on warrior, you sir have no idea what you talking about.

One thing for sure, this turned into a shitposting thread.
Congratulations everyone.