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UGH THE LIPS. Lol. Im sad. I'll have to change to smaller lips if they dont fix that.

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The lips are alsmost the same and, in fact, more accurate on the second model. The curvature usually stops at the level of the pupils; the previous mouth was too small, not the opposite in your case.

My character is looking better under new lighting condition. Altho if I need to admit, he is looking years older than 6.58 version. Which means my complain from first benchmark for Male Highlander Face#2 still stands.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...6407f583c9e5c&
(no any facepaint/hair/lipstik to make comparison easier)

1) Dividing line on eyebrow ridge is too prominent on the benchmark version and not blended enough
Seems to be conscious choice to compensate the lack of eyebrows for more readable face mimic, which is strange hill to keep fighting on. I would rather have more blended eyebrow ridge. OR please make it an option to have more/less prominent eyebrow ridge, for people who likes to keep their eyebrowlessness.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...6a84c1a227650&

2) Nose is boxier in benchmark version and look shorter becacuse of more prominent nasal alae
Personally I would really like they keep the curved shaped of the nose bridge from 6.58. And make ala part of nostril (the side of nose) to be less prominent, since it gives perception that the nose is shorter.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...a0b827aab5e6d&

3) Cheek on benchmark is just straight up different from 6.58 version
Cheek region is not as continuous/smooth like the 6.58 version (is it what they call laughing line?). If other races have their laughing line smoothen by new benchmark, then I don't see reason that Highlander should be singled out on this. Personally I would like to see this fixed.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...5e488d2e6bec2&

4) This one is more personal, but I miss the notch on the upper lip from 6.58 version. I would like to see this come back in benchmark instead just having flatter upper lip!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...f84dd6&http://

Apart from that, eyes seems to be bigger. AND facepaint eyebrow is still raised tad bit more, or it might be the case of different face morph. And in all fairness, I think each component of these changes are charming on its own, but combined together and all of sudden the character looks way older.

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Yes. But sometimes, the differences are so small, that i hope, that the people, who complain, will never buy a new monitor or a new GPU. Because the game will become unplayable for them because with the new monitor the character will look completely different.



Cheers

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I seriously doubt a new monitor can completely change textures, normal maps, and lighting.



Cheers

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Originally Posted by Merrigan

The lips are alsmost the same and, in fact, more accurate on the second model. The curvature usually stops at the level of the pupils; the previous mouth was too small, not the opposite in your case.

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Excuse me?? Accurate to what? My lips do not "stop at the level of the pupils" and its not a basic human trait to have that lol.
I personally think the edits they made to the lips made them ugly.
https://media.tenor.com/ZlpY6ivEbTMA...judge-rhoc.gif

I find it really very funny to be honest. This person claims that there are no differences between new and old characters.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I like going through this thread and playing spot the difference games with people's pictures only to conclude they're 99.99% the exact same image.

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I scroll further and see that this person says that the developers have literally remastered midlander.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

Of all the races, I'm really liking the Midlander looks. Some of the details look even closer to what modern FF character models look like.

I'll call this revenge of the Midlander. The race that got dismissed for looking like dolls are getting the best revamp with 7.0. Now if they can just fix the female midlander lips...

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I do not know whether to laugh or not? Maybe Mr. will show Miss the differences? She's obviously having some difficulty distinguishing faces. *I don't really think so, I see her messages from time to time and she sometimes offers sound ideas, but when it comes to graphical updates, I'm just surprised where she gets so much sarcasm and anger and indifference to our problems. But when she doesn't like something, rest assured, she will write three volumes of an encyclopedia on this subject*. So anyone can safely ignore her attacks in your direction about anything about graphic updates.

And about your message. That begs a few questions. first of all. I wonder who rejected this race? By you personally or you are talking in general now. Because it sounds like you're claiming that it was rejected by the community. The population of active players at the lalas and viera levels. That is, they have clearly not been rejected. About the fact that you are happy with the new look and actually confirm that the development team is literally not fulfilling its promises * to update the characters as closely as possible to the original. They did not say that they would make a new aesthetic for existing characters*. Actually, thanks for your message. I will definitely quote your message and translate it into Japanese to show the developers that even third-party people on the forum say that midlander female looks like new people at the moment. If they really want a new look, let them create a third sub-race. lowlander or something like that, and leave our beloved ones to us. And then everyone will be happy :3 Dolls, you say? you have the right to do so. For the sake of interest, I asked about 13 of my midlander female friends and none of them are happy with the new look. Yes, the sample is small, but I have to play with them, and do you think this is conducive to a positive atmosphere or not? :3

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Yes. But sometimes, the differences are so small, that i hope, that the people, who complain, will never buy a new monitor or a new GPU. Because the game will become unplayable for them because with the new monitor the character will look completely different.

Cheers

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Completely untrue. I upgraded EVERYTHING (so I could run CP with all the fancy settings) and am running FF at 4K max settings, and my character doesn't look different. The lines haven't changed with the monitor/gpu changes. The DT differences are because lines have completely been redone.

This made me laugh (not because of the character - she looks good :-) ). There are those of us who have F Au Ra head 4 and are upset with the changes. I, for one, and seriously considering changing heads or races all together because the changes just make Kal feel like a completely different character and I've been playing her since the beginning of HW. That is a long time to be staring at a face only to have it all the lines change.

I feel this just goes to show how things are perceived when looking outside-in. I try to take that into consideration and not discount what people are saying about the changes being done to THEIR characters (even though I might like them), and probably something, some people here should think about too.

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Originally Posted by Kathryn

Im going for a new look come Dawntrail ^.^

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Originally Posted by potatsdevourer

My character is looking better under new lighting condition. Altho if I need to admit, he is looking years older than 6.58 version. Which means my complain from first benchmark for Male Highlander Face#2 still stands.

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I use the same face and it looks like the same nose. Here is my feedback to Square Enix regarding this specific face: Thank you for fixing the issue in the last benchmark where it looked like my brow ridge was too soft and not angled correctly. Otherwise: please for the love of Rhalgr, do not listen to this player regarding the nose. DO NOT CHANGE THE NOSE. The nose is PERFECT AS IT NOW STANDS. Touch not the nose! It is different and that is a good thing. Please leave the cheeks alone. They are fantastic as they now stand. Please please please please please just stop fiddling with it, I love it as is and even prefer it.

Good afternoon! Does anyone know if Square Enix is updating our entire character model or just our faces? Due to the improved lighting, I'm seeing a lot of blockiness and edges on my models and wanted to know if I should provide feedback on that issue here or wait until after a body patch was announced and released?

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

Good afternoon! Does anyone know if Square Enix is updating our entire character model or just our faces? Due to the improved lighting, I'm seeing a lot of blockiness and edges on my models and wanted to know if I should provide feedback on that issue here or wait until after a body patch was announced and released?

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I believe they only enhanced polygons for the face, hands and feet. Anything else should stay blocky as before and I don't think they will do the body since it is unnecessary.