That Which He Does Not Play

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

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I don't think there are any objective facts in this thread lol

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

Are we talking about actual positive threads or threads where the OP spends half of the post talking about how terrible people who are 'too negative' are?

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actual positive threads. "I hate haters" and "complaining about complainers" threads are useless and counterproductive.

positive threads tend to be derailed and ganged up on faster than any other kind. (no, I didnt think the "lets thank the devs" thread was an honest positive attempt, fell into the anti complaint category imo)

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

That'd be fine but keep in mind you're gonna wait a while. The update is coming in batches, and Hrothgar aren't included in the first one. It seems it's going to be only for the ARR races.

And I wouldn't put so much hope for Femgars to come with updates for us either. Male Viera didn't come with fixes for Female Viera, and those had a lot more vocal fan support.

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Sorry got raid and read it now, yeah just like i said some speculation from me and hope ppl will get their unique stuff, i played miqo'te since ARR and will stay with this race, cause it would feel really weird in MSQ to see another race, alts excluded.
If i had started with heavensward maybe Au'ra would be my first pick, must also say don't like Viera and Hrothgar, idk if it's the limits they got or smth else, can't really explain or say what it is

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Originally Posted by Striker44

I don't doubt that in the least. Just look when IS came out. The usual crew making multiple threads about everything they found "wrong" with it. One thread was made by someone who enjoyed it talking about what they liked. And within the first few comments were several of the echo chamber cabal either straight-up attacking the OP or making passive-aggressive remarks like "I loved how I was able to no-life it for a day and now there's nothing to do." If anyone made a thread here talking about how they enjoy something in FFXIV, they'd doubtless be attacked for it. Heck, it happens practically anytime someone makes a post about something they like in juxtaposition to a post about something someone doesn't like...

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You seriously overestimate the amount of people in this very thread here that would actually go into an "I like how healers currently are" thread. Which is what IkaraGreydancer was talking about in their post saying that the very people "supporting" this thread would go into a thread about healers.

I don't think anyone even needs to go into a "healers good" thread. There are enough enraged healers about that it'll get flooded long before anyone from in here (potentially excepting people that legitimately main healer, of course) even gets a look at it.

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Originally Posted by SetsunaSakura

For the hairstyles it really sucks for those race players i totally agree, yesterday i created a hrothgar and well it's plenty nothing, but maybe we get with the graphic updates more styles but we can't really know that. Maybe they're in trouble for fem Hrothgars and wait for those updates now to get that fixed aswell, but just my speculation.

Additional egi glamours... hmmm now Summoner got a whole rework and that's why they didn't implement more, but didn't see or can't remember he told us that we get addional egi glams, cause of the whole rework.

Guess for the Arc ending, for me it was really epic, but you could tell me what wasn't epic, early Mr. Z.?

And well we got private housing like you mentioned.

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Anyone who has seen how beast races work in other games knows that they can have more than a mere two hairstyles per face by default – this isn’t something that players should have had to wait for fixes for, they should have released in the proper state from the beginning. Time will tell what happens with female Hrothgar, but the graphics update has more to do with texture upgrades than significant changes to 3d models or character creation.

As for Egi Glamours, after their initial release there was total silence for the better part of a decade until the class reached its breaking point in Shadowbringers with too many people angry at it for different reasons, culminating in a rework. That still has us summoning the same 3 fire/wind/earth primals with a toolkit more reduced than a level 20 FFXI SMN who by that point can summon most of that game’s pantheon. They didn’t “listen” until the problem was too big to ignore. Much like with the Viera/Hrothgar situation.

I’m not about to recount all the issues that 6.0 had – anyone whose interested in that discussion knows where to look in threads dedicated to that purpose. As of now there is no widely available private Housing, apartments do not satisfy those who want more than a room to decorate and especially not anyone who wants to be able to customize the outdoors to their liking in the biome of their choice – features that are currently absent from Island Sanctuary with no definite timeline as to when outdoor furnishing placement will be added as per the latest Live Letter. It’s a state of affairs so bad that adding the lottery was an improvement, at least until “The Winning Number is 0!” showed up on people’s screens. People who have excesses of gil to buy smalls 3 times over still can’t get a guaranteed home – with actual housing still being superior to Island Sanctuary in many aspects.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

I don't think anyone even needs to go into a "healers good" thread. There are enough enraged healers about that it'll get flooded long before anyone from in here (potentially excepting people that legitimately main healer, of course) even gets a look at it.

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It’s considered a cardinal sin in this forum, so it’s handled with timely retribution.

Here is my two sense.

I am not a "supporter" of this thread, going on 400 posts now and I've posted twice. I main healer because I like helping people, have a few ideas how current FFXIV healer fix might improve but frankly healer threads don't interest me.

I'd be as active on one as I'm here. Barely at all. This victim mentality and "everyone against me is supporting my rivals" nonsense really isn't all that charming, to be perfectly honest.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Idk about you but I'd prefer to live in a world where everything isn't 100% positive all the time.

If people wanna complain about the sky being blue instead of yellow, let em. What does someone else's random opinion really do to your day?

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I do too. Which is why in the past a lot of my posts have been negative. I was even saying that I would stop playing the game if Endwalker would not be better. It did get better and now I have no problem posting about the things I like too because I finally have more content that I do like. (I also enjoyed the story)

Yet eventhough I have (and will!) complain about something, I am still of the opinion that you should have at least done the content you complain about. OP at least posted in the past that they have not done the Island and got all his information from someone that seemingly did it. Yet he complained all the same as if he has done it. That does not feel right to me.

There is also the case with him that in the past he truly disliked the scions and even created threads about how he would change it and the story and yet when we finally get a new character with Zero he right away creates another thread where he dislikes her..and oh boy what a thread that one was.

So the OP feels like someone that simply cant find joy in this game anymore. Yet continues to pay a sub for seemingly logging in twice a week or something like that and still buys mog station stuff (or is fine with getting it send to him...when I was not happy with the game I forbid my friend from giving me something from the shop because I did not want to support SE even further...I also took weeks or a month long breaks between my subs). So bascially it feels like he is simply here to stir the pot.