Patch 3.4 - Soul Surrender

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09-21-2016, 01:45 AM
Balipu

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Originally Posted by Daemius

I'm Camp Masked Guy Is Ilberd for sure. It's either him or some completely new character but I don't know why he would be masked if it wasn't Ilberd.

For the same reason everyone who isn't Ilberd is wearing a mask. Funny thing is, just because the masked guy is new to us, he might not be new to everyone else. He is hiding his looks from the crowd, not the player.
Also, Ysayle was introduced in 2.4 so this is the right time to get us aquainted with a new anti-hero/villain/anti-villain/hero for the pre expansion + early expansion storyline.

Yes, I'm Camp Newguy. In fact I am Camp Stormblood.
09-21-2016, 02:49 AM
Jojozan

Still hoping that finishing Alexander will retroactively get you all of the Goblin Beast Tribe Rankings in one go.
09-21-2016, 03:01 AM
MilesSaintboroguh

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Originally Posted by Jojozan

Still hoping that finishing Alexander will retroactively get you all of the Goblin Beast Tribe Rankings in one go.

Yoshida said there won't be a Goblin beast tribe to rank up with since they're so ingrained with the Alexander story and that there was enough tribes for 3.0. Though even if we did get Goblin beastmen quests, I know they won't let you just rank up with them instantly because that's not exactly fair for everyone else. At most, you'll just get a passing mention.
09-21-2016, 07:28 AM
Daemius

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Originally Posted by Balipu

For the same reason everyone who isn't Ilberd is wearing a mask. Funny thing is, just because the masked guy is new to us, he might not be new to everyone else. He is hiding his looks from the crowd, not the player.
Also, Ysayle was introduced in 2.4 so this is the right time to get us aquainted with a new anti-hero/villain/anti-villain/hero for the pre expansion + early expansion storyline.

Yes, I'm Camp Newguy. In fact I am Camp Stormblood.

That's if they want the story to be as repetitive as the patch cycle currently. Just because content releases are predictable doesn't mean the story has to be. I'd rather not be able to go like "Oh it's the final patch of the expansion time for a betrayal and revelation of new race" every time >.> I'm not opposed to having a new character but getting a new Ysayle-like character just because this is 3.4 is not a great idea to me.
09-21-2016, 09:47 AM
Fenral

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Also, Ysayle was introduced in 2.4 so this is the right time to get us aquainted with a new anti-hero/villain/anti-villain/hero for the pre expansion + early expansion storyline.

2.4 also introduced Moenbryda, so he could just as easily be new character who will immediately die in 2.5. FOREVER.

Fool me once, Yoshida...
09-21-2016, 09:55 AM
Fevelle

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Originally Posted by Fenral

2.4 also introduced Moenbryda, so he could just as easily be new character who will immediately die in 2.5. FOREVER.

Fool me once, Yoshida...

I'm still waiting for my Wind-Up Moenbryda.
09-21-2016, 10:59 AM
Ametrine

I really, really hope we don't get another Ysayle. I found her so obnoxious in 3.0!

Since going on an epic journey with a women who commited mass murder and encouraged others to do so is totally cool for the sake of a legend. Yep. Totally chill with that.

But at least she was pretty and thought moogles were cute, right?

And yes I know her entire arch is reinforcing the idea that no one is guiltless in war and her sacrifice benefitted the cause of forging peace. I just can't get over her manaically laughing as she brought down the barrier over Ishgard and that she really didn't consider the fact that the raging dragons wouldn't differentiate soldier verses innocent children.

I just don't find her to be half as admirable as the story, post her death, makes her out to be. I feel like she died verses facing the consequences, and is that really martydom?
09-21-2016, 12:04 PM
Jojozan

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Yoshida said there won't be a Goblin beast tribe to rank up with since they're so ingrained with the Alexander story and that there was enough tribes for 3.0. Though even if we did get Goblin beastmen quests, I know they won't let you just rank up with them instantly because that's not exactly fair for everyone else. At most, you'll just get a passing mention.

Actually, I meant that the Alexander runs would be the Beast Tribe Quests, so we would have been doing them all along, it just is not recognized until we complete the normal Alexander storyline. And since we completed the storyline, we are automatically at the highest level for the local goblins.
09-21-2016, 08:03 PM
Balipu

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Originally Posted by Daemius

That's if they want the story to be as repetitive as the patch cycle currently. Just because content releases are predictable doesn't mean the story has to be. I'd rather not be able to go like "Oh it's the final patch of the expansion time for a betrayal and revelation of new race" every time >.> I'm not opposed to having a new character but getting a new Ysayle-like character just because this is 3.4 is not a great idea to me.

A fair point. Then again, him being a new Ysayle type character would be the least predictable move as everyone beside me seems convinced that the masked guy is Ilberd. Of course when I say "like Ysayle" I don't mean that her entire arc should be copied. As I mentioned he could be anything from a hero to a straight up villain. Hell, he could be the main villain of 3.0. We are pretty short on cool villains. An odd situation for a final fantasy game.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

2.4 also introduced Moenbryda, so he could just as easily be new character who will immediately die in 2.5. FOREVER.

Fool me once, Yoshida...

That could also occur yes. But if he's the new Moenbryda, that still gives us: not-Ilberd.
09-21-2016, 08:12 PM
Fenral

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

I'm still waiting for my Wind-Up Moenbryda.

I'm still waiting for G'raha Tia's name to be spoken by an NPC post 2.5. We've gotten more continuity for Doga and Unei. (He and Moen need TT cards, too.)

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

And yes I know her entire arch is reinforcing the idea that no one is guiltless in war and her sacrifice benefitted the cause of forging peace. I just can't get over her manaically laughing as she brought down the barrier over Ishgard and that she really didn't consider the fact that the raging dragons wouldn't differentiate soldier verses innocent children.

I just don't find her to be half as admirable as the story, post her death, makes her out to be. I feel like she died verses facing the consequences, and is that really martydom?

FFXIV is still not quite as edgy as it wants to be. Far better to believe that every death was an absolute necessity, and the perfect atonement for all the problems they caused, than acknowledge that, sometimes. people can die for a cause (even deliberately choose it!) and still leave so much of what only they could have accomplished in life undone.

But that's kind of my personal pet peeve. This isn't 1988 anymore.

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